Right amount for G Chiragra?

MJI

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Hi guys,

On average (if there is one), what's the right amount of food for G Chiragra?

He's taken the whole of my clean-up crew in about 5 days, 2 turbo snails and 2 ceriths also a peace of silverside. Only thing he aint eatten is my red leg hermits.

Trying to balance good nutition with bio-load on the tank.

Ideas?
 
That's a damned good question. I have 2 mantis, one Peacock and one 2" green guy as yet unidentified.

Most of my friends say I feed them too much, but I'm not sure. I subscribe to the notation that, if the animal wants to eat then the animal should eat.

I buy hermits 30 at a time now. I supplement this feeding with a bit of frozen shrimp (which I don't like because if it is uneaten it deteriorates fast).

I have even bought cheap periwinkles at the grocery store (which are huge snails) for my larger mantis to eat.

He eats at least once a day, usually more.

The smaller of my two mantis, the green one, will eat 5 or 6 hermits in a day, no kidding, he's eating like crazy!

I would like to know how much is too much?

Regards,
JJ.
 
get him something a little meatier than hermits, sounds like he's decimating the world hermit population through you through your lfs... lol

where are periwinkles at the grocery store? and what type of grocery store is it?

i'm gonna have a peacock soon so i need to know a place to get hermits or snails for cheap and in bulk :)
 
I have some data on stomatopod feeding from the field, but as you can imagine, it is difficult to come by. We collected shell fragments daily from outside 30 G. chriagra cavities for over a month. They were taking two - four items a day, usually snails, hermits and bivalves. Obviously this is an underestimate because they also feed on soft bodied prey that which leave behind no evidence.

We have also used video to continuously monitor N. bredini and O. havanensis if the field. Again, three or four feeding trips away from the cavity or burrow each day.

In another study, we added cavities for N. bredini to a turtle grass flat. We therefore knew how many stomatopods were present before and after the experiment. We also sampled the gastropod and hermit populations weekly. From these data, we calculated that the stomatpods (all in the 35-50 mm size range) were taking 1-5 prey items a day. The averages were two snails and one hermit a day.

I haven't given you the sizes of the prey, but in generally gonodactylids take snails and hermits about 1/4 to almost the size of their thorax (use the carapace as a diameter estimate). For a 2.5 inch N wennerae, this would mean shells about 1/4 to 3/4 of an inch.

As for how much to feed an animalin the aquarium, I subscribe to the practice of moderation (for the stomatopods, not me). I give my animals one piece of food - frozen shrimp, nutrient enriched krill, etc., every three days. The piece is usually about half the size of the carapace. Food not eaten is removed after four hours. In large aquaria that can handle the load of the occasional rotting snail, I will try to add three or for snails every couple of days if they are disappearing. Our animals grow, but perhaps not quite as fast as in the field. However, mortality is reduced probably due to fewer molt problems and better water quality.

Hope this helps.

Roy
 
That about matches my feeding schedule - a sliver of krill every 3 days. The size of my tank makes me shy away from anything live for fear of polluting the water too quickly.
 
Hmmm ... that leaves a lot to think about. Man, I'm feeding Ghengis and Leviathon as much as they want, which sounds more like in the range of what you have observed in their natural environment.

I have done some tests on my water and it passes with flying colors every time. I don't have a power header either so the water doesn't really move too much in there.

The periwinkles I buy are from "The Superstore", which is a very large supermarket up here in Vancouver. The "fresh seafood" section here sells everything from large crabs, lobster, trout etc all live, including mussels, clams, oyseters and, thanks god, periwinkles. I can pay $0.46 and get 7 very large specimen. One drawback is that I belive they are know to carry "black spot" ich. I posted a question trying to find out if the snails or the black spot was bad for the Stomatopods, but I didn't gey any replies.

I really have to reevaluate my feeding habbits with Ghengis. I like watching him eat, but I don't want him to die due to my overindulgence. I love feeding him live stuff. I just payed $10 for a large hermit crab (shell is about 2-3 inches in length), a big red guy. Ghengis hasn't eaten him yet, but he hasn't run out of little crabs yet either.

Thanks for the posts and information everyone.

Regards,
JJ.
 
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