Salt Poll 2010

Salt Poll 2010

  • D-D H2Ocean Pro +

    Votes: 35 6.9%
  • Red Sea Coral Pro

    Votes: 34 6.7%
  • Red Sea Salt

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • Instant Ocean

    Votes: 120 23.6%
  • Reef Crystals

    Votes: 140 27.6%
  • Tropic Marin

    Votes: 12 2.4%
  • Tropic Marin Pro Reef

    Votes: 43 8.5%
  • Coral Life

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Oceanic

    Votes: 36 7.1%
  • Kent

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Brightwell Aquatics Neo Marine

    Votes: 14 2.8%
  • E.S.V. B-Ionic Seawater

    Votes: 6 1.2%
  • Seachem Marine

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Seachem Reef

    Votes: 35 6.9%
  • Sera Marine

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Marine Environment

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Reef’s Best

    Votes: 5 1.0%
  • Tunze Reef

    Votes: 4 0.8%
  • Others (Please Specify)

    Votes: 14 2.8%
  • Natural Seawater

    Votes: 6 1.2%

  • Total voters
    508
I use Reef Crystals. I think it's more personal preference/pricing than anything...for the most part.

+1 I have been using RC for many years and see no reason to change. I get it for $45 a bucket locally and the price/quality is hard to beat. :hammer:

Now, if I lived near a clean body of salt water I would be using that to supply my water changes. Heck, I would probably be doing 50% water changes a week if that were the case!
 
I changed form Reef Crystals to Oceanic. Reef Crystals was giving me diatom and when I did water changes. I changed to Oceanic, it went away. Plus my corals are growing faster and have never looked better. I think I am Oceanic for 2010.
 
went from IO to bio actif just last week and even though they said it would take up to 6 weeks to see the results I can already being to see them, I will not be going back to IO
 
went from IO to bio actif just last week and even though they said it would take up to 6 weeks to see the results I can already being to see them, I will not be going back to IO

What did you see?
 
firstly on testing the water I found the parameters to be identical on three batches on made up ( i was testing for consistancy) the calcium was 440pm on all of them, which I liked, and the ph was a bit higher at 8.3 which i liked as well. I switched out 15 percent of my water as instructed to and went off to work for the day...when I came home I thought something was wrong with my tank at first. I couldn't see the water was my biggest concern, it was crystal clear when I approached the tank, I have never seen my water so clear. Lastly, I thought my corals looked happy before they look really good now...I can actually see the polyps, and after the last few days they appear to glow in the actinic light instead of looking so dull...

just my observations,
 
jmoney, did you do any other type of maintenance work to the aquarium beside the 15% change? Did you do a 11 gallon water change?
 
no, the only other thing I do is scrape the glass whenever its kind of dirty, my total system volume is about 100 gallons so my water change is 15
 
Started using Instant Ocean 3 years ago and stayed with it so I spend more money on fish and corals over the next couple years. It is small amount but it adds up.
 
Alex T.,

I used Crystal Seas Bioassay Laboratory Formula salt mix for years without any problems whatsoever. However, it was the only brand I ever used. I did not switch from Instant Ocean to Crystal Seas. Some of the people who switched from Instant Ocean (and perhaps Reef Crystals) to Crystal Seas reported some problems with bleaching. Other people did not have that problem and I don't know of anyone who started out with Crystal Seas who ever reported any problems.

So I still don't know what the problem was, I just know that it seemed to only affect people switching from Instant Ocean (and perhaps Reef Crystals) to Crystal Seas and not affect people switching from other brands. I do know some people who successfully switched from Instant Ocean to Crystal Seas but I believe they did it very slowly over a period of time.

If anyone (Randy?) has any clue what that was all about, please speak up.

As far as the study that you referenced, there was a surge of people switching to Crystal Seas following Dr. Ron Shimek's article showing that Crystal Seas performed better than some other brands in a study of survival rates among sea urchin larvae. Instant Ocean's chief scientific officer, Dr. Tim Hovanec, responded with a study of his own to refute Dr. Shimek's study and its conclusions.

Dr. Hovanec's study actually confirmed most of Dr. Shimek's results but Dr. Hovanec disagreed with Dr. Shimek's conclusions. Dr. Hovanec said that we should not be "tempted" to consider the salt that did poorest at keeping sea urchin larvae alive to be "worse" than the salt that performed best.

I will attach Dr. Hovanec's own chart from his own study and you can see why Dr. Hovanec does not want you to be "tempted" to jump to conclusions. Reef Crystals is at the far left side of Dr. Hovanec's chart and Crystal Seas is at the far right side, but please down be "tempted" to consider Reef Crystals "worse" than any of the other brands.

Here's how they managed to explain that little inconvenient truth:
The results from the above experiment demonstrate that SSS are not "poisonous" to sea urchin larvae. Furthermore, no one SSS can be considered better, or worse, than the others. While one might be tempted to consider the sea salts who [sic] returned lower mean values of normal sea urchin development to be "worse" than others, this view is not supported by the statistical analysis. -- Timothy Hovanec, Ph.D., Chief Scientific Officer, Marineland.​
 

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hi my friend. in poll you write Instant Ocean and reef crystal. reef crystal win with 138 vote.
in my country is 2 type salt
1. reef crystals from "instant ocean" company
2. reef crystals from "aquarium system" company
which salt is winner in poll ?
can you give me a web site link from reef crystal salt winned with 138 vote ?
tanx
 
Interesting. It used to be instant ocean was hated upon (Back when I first joined the forums).. Oceanic was the big one people touted.. It was based off of a study with octopus egg hatch counts if I remember right. Oceanic had the highest survival rate. Plus, oceanic had the highest calcium levels.

I just ordered 400 gallons worth of oceanic for $150.. way better than anything I can get local.
 
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