Smokers and Non-Smokers Id like PH readings!

[Covey]

Yeah like "dosing" vodka:lol:

Yes dear the tank is using like 3 bottles a week now. I just can't seem to get on top of that nitrate problem.

 

[Wiskey]

Lets NOT use this thread to TRASH smokers!!!! We get enough of that CRAP every day from people that can't mind their own business.

I am simply trying to figure out if smoking indoors has a significant effect on PH. For the study I am spending a few days stepping outside to smoke, (in 110 deg heat) so far nothing conclusive.

Please keep your negative comments to yourself, they are not helping anyone.

Thanks,
Whiskey

 

[dreaminmel]

My husband and I both smoke in the house. Windows are wide open all summer but closed up for half of the year when it gets cold.

pH swings from 7.9 to 8.2 regardless of the aeration or smoking.

FWIW, yes cigarettes are bad for us. But how are non-smokers getting cancer? Not from the smokers... there are more battles to fight to avoid cancer than just blaming smokers. Alcohol seems to be a bigger problem in our society when you include effects other than the obvious liver damage. They already tried taking that away once. Luckily for the vodka dosers it didn't work.

 

[RobbyG]

Wiskey you have a very interesting experiment going, may I suggest a way to speed up getting the results.
I would get 2 sealed containers of mixed 8.2 SW with 1 gallon water in each, then pass smoke through one of them using an air pump and a Cigarette placed at the pumps intake, then take some measurements. Next put the pump on the other container minus the Cig and see if the pH is any different. It will at least show how much CO2 a Cig can put out and how it will change the pH on 1 gallon of water. Some varation of this experiment should yield clear results.

 

[Shawnts106]

Yes dear the tank is using like 3 bottles a week now. I just can't seem to get on top of that nitrate problem

LMAO!

Lets NOT use this thread to TRASH smokers!!!!

Agreed.

We get enough of that CRAP every day from people that can't mind their own business.

Crap.. haha, funny... why do you think they do this to you? its because your also hurting them in a way.

FWIW, yes cigarettes are bad for us. But how are non-smokers getting cancer? Not from the smokers... there are more battles to fight to avoid cancer than just blaming smokers.

Uh, while yes, nonsmokers get cancer... of course, not from smokeing, but from environmental effects... you also have to specify which cancer your refering to.. as far as I know cigs dont cause skin cancer, but I might be wrong, either way the sun would have more of an effect on that than anything else would.
Some people do get lung cancer from second hand smoke.. if they are around it alot. this is also a factor.

For the study I am spending a few days stepping outside to smoke, (in 110 deg heat) so far nothing conclusive.

Im sorry I have to point this out to non smokers
" in 110 deg heat " .. as if we are suppose to "pitty the smoker"

HEY, its YOUR CHOICE to smoke.. just think, if you were NOT addicted to cancer sticks you wouldnt have to fry outside for your fix.

just a thought.

 

[amuruges]

I don't know about smoking and not smoking, but I can tell you this, my upstair tank pH ranges between 8.0-8.3 and my tank in the basement ranges between 7.7-8.0, I haven't checked it yet maybe my fish smoke at night....

 

[SmokeFish]

I'm still in my research phase and haven't started up my tank yet, but that's something I've been thinking of. I was wondering if smoking in the room would affect the tank at all as I plan on spending many hours sitting in front of my tank smoking... Some people are 2 fisted drinkers, I'm a 2 fisted smoker... ;0)

 

[jdieck]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7779867#post7779867 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by amuruges
I don't know about smoking and not smoking, but I can tell you this, my upstair tank pH ranges between 8.0-8.3 and my tank in the basement ranges between 7.7-8.0, I haven't checked it yet maybe my fish smoke at night....

Two comments:
CO2 is heavier than air so it might tend to concentrate at the lower levels.
Second, if you have a gas or oil based water heater in the basement it might be the source of extra CO2, check that you have proper vent to the outside (most indoor units must have a vent fan ducted to the outside)
In winter check the same thing if you have a gas or oil heating unit. In addition it might be worth while to install forced ventilation in your basement.

 

[amuruges]

jdieck, thank for the input, Yes I have a exhaust fan installed. but I think you are right it gets worse in winter cause I have a gas heater and furnace.

 

[revance]

This survey really isn't going to prove or disprove anything.

There are too many variables and no way to have a control.

If you want it to be a little bit more accurate, you should at least ask what their alkalinity is too. From that information, you can roughly guess what the co2 levels in the tank are.