Snails continue to die within a few hours

[Daurland]

I have had a 13.5 gallon running for about two months and coral is doing well and fish as well

But when I add any snails they tend to die within a few hours

Only running,

chemi blue pro
Filterfloss
Media reactor with rowaphos
Bio max

Wondering if anyone has a thoughts on this

The picture are my numbers as of today

 

[mellotang]

Do you acclimate them ?

I find snails to be sensitive to changes in salinity

 

[Daurland]

Do you acclimate them ?

I find snails to be sensitive to changes in salinity

Yes I have acclimated them and still tend to die off, usually acclimate for about 15-20 minutes

 

[mellotang]

Drip Method?

Or you Just float bag?

 

[Daurland]

Drip Method?

Or you Just float bag?

Float bag

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

What kind of snails?

 

[mellotang]

You’re not acclimating to salinity if you don’t drip

Floating bag only acclimated for temp

 

[kharmaguru]

You’re not acclimating to salinity if you don’t drip

Floating bag only acclimated for temp

this.

Get one of these, it makes acclimation super easy:

 

[VWD]

I would think that you have something else going on in your tank if you’re losing your snails. I never acclimate anything before it goes in my tank. I closed the bag temperature acclimate drop them in.
Especially if they’re dying that fast do you have any other invertebrates in your tank shrimp or crabs?

 

[BeanAnimal]

Snail acclimation....
Stick them to the glass above the water line - or a piece of pipe, etc. Let them dip their foot in and acclimate themselves... They will slowly walk into the water as they get comfortable, just like you getting in a hot tub.

But I would also agree with the above... something else is wrong. An unhappy snail will seek the water line of seal itself in. Trace amounts of copper? Something else. I know you said you have coral, but different inverts react to copper poisoning differently.

 

[BeanAnimal]

I think the recommendation to not drip acclimate is due to the rapid buildup of ammonia in the saturated shipping water. Inverts make a mess very quickly and the moment you open the bag, Ammonia begins to buildup due to the oxygen.

 

[kharmaguru]

I've had exactly the opposite experience. Temperature acclimate only and they sit there like stoned zombies for days and a small portion survive and otherwise have short lives. Drip acclimate and they're happy and moving the same day and survive for years.

 

[mellotang]

I’ve killed more than My fair share of snails in short time. IMO when animals die in 24-48 hrs it’s almost always from
Improper acclimation. But this is only my opinion

I don’t know if it’s from salinity changes or Kh/ph change but something affects snails

Problem is, 50 dead snails results in a pretty big ammonia spike so then you’re chasing and guessing

I like to acclimate

 

[mellotang]

wvned, you are doing some sort of tank water acclimation when you’re adding tank water to the bag

 

[Daurland]

this.

Get one of these, it makes acclimation super easy:

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Ok thank you

 

[Daurland]

If something is shipped with a lot of water I dump some until the bag is about 1/4 full and then I add the same amount to the bag from the tank. I clip the bag to the tank and let it float. Then I add some from a cup every 10 minutes or so and after 30-60 minutes I dump the bag in the tank.

The only time I acclimate in a bucket is the rare event that I get something in the green or blue water where some chemical has been added to the bag. I add the water to the bucket but place the animal in the tank at the end and toss the water in the bucket.

Thank you I’ll check this out

 

[Daurland]

What kind of snails?

Turbos and astrea.
But it’s strange because the four fish hermits and peppermint shrimp and cleaner shrimp are having no issues at all

 

[Daurland]

wvned, you are doing some sort of tank water acclimation when you’re adding tank water to the bag

I just did a 5 gallon water change and the numbers above were the numbers from yesterday as well.

My po4 says 1.0 but in fact it was .10 I messed that up in my notes

 

[Daurland]

If something is shipped with a lot of water I dump some until the bag is about 1/4 full and then I add the same amount to the bag from the tank. I clip the bag to the tank and let it float. Then I add some from a cup every 10 minutes or so and after 30-60 minutes I dump the bag in the tank.

The only time I acclimate in a bucket is the rare event that I get something in the green or blue water where some chemical has been added to the bag. I add the water to the bucket but place the animal in the tank at the end and toss the water in the bucket.

The snails that are being out in the tank are the same that go into my main display and have been going strong no problem for about 5 months

 

[Daurland]

I've had exactly the opposite experience. Temperature acclimate only and they sit there like stoned zombies for days and a small portion survive and otherwise have short lives. Drip acclimate and they're happy and moving the same day and survive for years.

That’s what I do with my main display, and the same snails from the same lfs and I’ve had no problems. Running strong for 5 months now