Snowflake Clowns' First Spawn
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JHardman
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Haven't posted in years, but have been in the forum the last day or two.
Anyway some further thoughts and advice.
Use situation feeding, which is basically feeding them slowly by hand allowing them to catch what is dropped in front of those noses until they turn their nose up at it. Don't worry too much about the male, he will fill MUCH quicker than the female, and frankly her feeding is more important because she is the one doing the vast majority of the work. You can feed once a day with this method using high quality foods, multiple feedings are better, but you can squeak by with one using this method.
If its your intention to raise fry from this pair, get them started on a removable substraight, e.g. tile or pot. Trying to remove hatchlings from a working tank is well, kind of insanely hard and typically a waste of time and effort as the results are so poor in terms of numbers. Keep in mind you are going to have a significant die off between newly hatched fry and "big enough to leave home". As a new "breeder" you should be jumping for joy is you get 20% of a hatch to 6 months. With years of experience you should be jumping for joy with 70% to 6 months.
If you haven't already read my posts in the FAQs of the forum related to spawning and breeding, do take the time.
Last, I don't mean to bust your bubble, but please keep in mind that the bars on those clowns are not something that is a hard and fast genetic trait that will be passed on to the fry. I know ORA put a TON of time and selective breeding in to get to the point that they can offer a "product" of these mis-barred clowns. I would be surprised if more than 10% of the fry showed the same mis-barring. Bottom line, do not expect to see lots and lots of little clowns that have the same mis-barring as the parents. I would however expect to see lots of mis-barring in general, spots, unconnected bars, missing bars, missing on one side, etc, etc along with lots of normally barring.
Anyway some further thoughts and advice.
Use situation feeding, which is basically feeding them slowly by hand allowing them to catch what is dropped in front of those noses until they turn their nose up at it. Don't worry too much about the male, he will fill MUCH quicker than the female, and frankly her feeding is more important because she is the one doing the vast majority of the work. You can feed once a day with this method using high quality foods, multiple feedings are better, but you can squeak by with one using this method.
If its your intention to raise fry from this pair, get them started on a removable substraight, e.g. tile or pot. Trying to remove hatchlings from a working tank is well, kind of insanely hard and typically a waste of time and effort as the results are so poor in terms of numbers. Keep in mind you are going to have a significant die off between newly hatched fry and "big enough to leave home". As a new "breeder" you should be jumping for joy is you get 20% of a hatch to 6 months. With years of experience you should be jumping for joy with 70% to 6 months.
If you haven't already read my posts in the FAQs of the forum related to spawning and breeding, do take the time.
Last, I don't mean to bust your bubble, but please keep in mind that the bars on those clowns are not something that is a hard and fast genetic trait that will be passed on to the fry. I know ORA put a TON of time and selective breeding in to get to the point that they can offer a "product" of these mis-barred clowns. I would be surprised if more than 10% of the fry showed the same mis-barring. Bottom line, do not expect to see lots and lots of little clowns that have the same mis-barring as the parents. I would however expect to see lots of mis-barring in general, spots, unconnected bars, missing bars, missing on one side, etc, etc along with lots of normally barring.
trueblackpercula
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Hey its been a long time hope al is well and great to see you back.....:beer:
Woogiekids
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JHardman, Thanks so much for the thoughtful post! I would be happy with just a fry or two making it at this point. 
I find the intricacy of the genetics one of the most interesting pieces of the process. Almost like opening a clam, and never knowing exactly what kind of pearl you are going to find. It won't bother me one bit to have all different patterned fry.
Here are a few macro pics of today. Day 3. Interesting that about 1/3 of the fry are backwards. Those seem to not be developing well, on the whole.
I find the intricacy of the genetics one of the most interesting pieces of the process. Almost like opening a clam, and never knowing exactly what kind of pearl you are going to find. It won't bother me one bit to have all different patterned fry.
Here are a few macro pics of today. Day 3. Interesting that about 1/3 of the fry are backwards. Those seem to not be developing well, on the whole.
tahiriqbal
Sialkot
Its nice to be a daddy.... lovely shots
lovely shots
Woogiekids
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That's Mama to you... 
Thanks!
Just one pic for the morning, and I'll revisit tonight. Here's the male tending his eggs.
Thanks!Just one pic for the morning, and I'll revisit tonight. Here's the male tending his eggs.
Supernova26
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After seeing this pictures I am buying that camera. Great job. Keep us posted.
Woogiekids
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Alright, Day 5, and we're starting to have silver eyes.
Hi Mom!!
Hi Mom!!
Neogenocide
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This is one of the best threads in quite a while.....and the photography is top notch!!!!
Thanks for putting in the effort to document this.
Thanks for putting in the effort to document this.
Woogiekids
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Thanks! Hatch should be tomorrow nite, I think!
Woogiekids
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OK, morning Day 6: Opinions needed. Is tonight hatch? Most have silver eyes, not all. I have plans, so am kinda hoping no...lol
deangelr
Clown Whisperererer
^this, not just the physical act but the expense needed to produce healthy clutches.
trueblackpercula
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How do you plan to raise the fru?
trueblackpercula
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Baby food??
Woogiekids
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Lol, it's ready. I have a Rotifer culture, and a rearing tank all ready to roll.
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