Arkayology
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Interesting. Reef Nutrition does not have SPS on the label or description as benefiting from it.
SPS Targeted Feeding Macro Video Experiment
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Interesting. Reef Nutrition does not have SPS on the label or description as benefiting from it.
jackson6745
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No increase in anything other than growth from that corals that consume it. I'm feeding it 2-3 times per week. It's a pretty clean feed and doesn't seem to spike nutrients.
Reef Nutrition apparently didn't do their homework
Not all SPS eat this though, but the ones that do seem to benefit from it.
Reef Nutrition apparently didn't do their homework
Not all SPS eat this though, but the ones that do seem to benefit from it.
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biggles
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Damn you guys have been busy, great info reading through what you've been doing. I've just set the sump tank up again with some acros i can macro video whilst trying foods so i'll be joining in again once i actually get some of the foods you guys have been having success with. Definitely going to try a meaty pappone type mix and video the polyps reaction to it.
trueblackpercula
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Damn you guys have been busy, great info reading through what you've been doing. I've just set the sump tank up again with some acros i can macro video whilst trying foods so i'll be joining in again once i actually get some of the foods you guys have been having success with. Definitely going to try a meaty pappone type mix and video the polyps reaction to it.
Hey biggles
All I can say is that this stuff is amazing. The only draw backs that I have found is it will raise your nitrates and po4 quickly but nothing water change can't fix. It will also make your tank explode with life pods works etc. I have so much more to tell you guys about it. Also I may have to stop because my Sps are encrusting so fast that they Re almost touching now and that will be another story lol. Colors and PE are off the charts for me like never before. Now if I can just find a way to nuke the bugs I have crawling around on my two smoothed skin acros I will be fine.
trueblackpercula
New member
Ok UPDATE on Pappone,
This stuff works great and I cant get a perfect picture with this stupid Iphone but as you can see the SPS are encrusting very fast. This is causing me to get concerned at this rate the will be competing for space and burning each other in less then a couple months. I have never seen SPS grow so quickly on anything else I tried before that .
DRAW BACKS:
1) super fast growth rate at a feeding level of 5 mls four days a week right now but this I will need to cut back on its way to much. I am thinking 2mls four days a week is better and it should slow the growth rate down some.
2) explosive amount of aptasia anemones as they are also eating very well these days and I am having a hard time keeping up with killing them. So if you feed this stuff to your SPS beware it will also feed the things you don't want to keep.
3) well this is not a Con but could turns out to be.....An unbelievable amount of pods, worms, feather dusters and large amount of sponges in every color under ever rock you lift up. I have also seen many tiny brittle star fish and asteria starfish like never before. My concern with this is if I stop feeding I think they will die off and cause a spike in decaying animals.
4) PO4 and Nitrate does spike after feeding but not to dangerous levels in my case but I have been dosing biodigest and this seems to keep that in check.
5) The skimmer needs more frequent cleaning and the stuff is black in color only after a week.
Other then what I have posted I cant find any other issues with the pappone and I would recommend it to anyone keeping sps to try it.
There is no need to dose anything else to feed your reef tank as this stuff cost less then $20 bucks to make. In addition to that the first batch I made that I have kept in the refrigerator is still good. ( 01-11-2-14 )
I think its the sugar that acts as a preservative in keeping it nice and fresh. you should be able to get 800mls out of one batch if made correctly. You will also need to shake it it before drawing into what ever you use to dose it. I use a syringe that holds 10ml but I only use 5mls.
Well until next Update I am looking forward to hearing from others that are using Pappone and seeing there results....
Michael
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stags
before cleaning
after cleaning
This stuff works great and I cant get a perfect picture with this stupid Iphone but as you can see the SPS are encrusting very fast. This is causing me to get concerned at this rate the will be competing for space and burning each other in less then a couple months. I have never seen SPS grow so quickly on anything else I tried before that .
DRAW BACKS:
1) super fast growth rate at a feeding level of 5 mls four days a week right now but this I will need to cut back on its way to much. I am thinking 2mls four days a week is better and it should slow the growth rate down some.
2) explosive amount of aptasia anemones as they are also eating very well these days and I am having a hard time keeping up with killing them. So if you feed this stuff to your SPS beware it will also feed the things you don't want to keep.
3) well this is not a Con but could turns out to be.....An unbelievable amount of pods, worms, feather dusters and large amount of sponges in every color under ever rock you lift up. I have also seen many tiny brittle star fish and asteria starfish like never before. My concern with this is if I stop feeding I think they will die off and cause a spike in decaying animals.
4) PO4 and Nitrate does spike after feeding but not to dangerous levels in my case but I have been dosing biodigest and this seems to keep that in check.
5) The skimmer needs more frequent cleaning and the stuff is black in color only after a week.
Other then what I have posted I cant find any other issues with the pappone and I would recommend it to anyone keeping sps to try it.
There is no need to dose anything else to feed your reef tank as this stuff cost less then $20 bucks to make. In addition to that the first batch I made that I have kept in the refrigerator is still good. ( 01-11-2-14 )
I think its the sugar that acts as a preservative in keeping it nice and fresh. you should be able to get 800mls out of one batch if made correctly. You will also need to shake it it before drawing into what ever you use to dose it. I use a syringe that holds 10ml but I only use 5mls.
Well until next Update I am looking forward to hearing from others that are using Pappone and seeing there results....
Michael
top down picture
stags
before cleaning
after cleaning
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penfold2
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When I used to make my own food I noticed that there was a significant difference between the fresh and frozen food. The fresh food was a dense fog when added to the tank. There were some visible pieces as well, but much of the food was too small to be seen as individual pieces. After freezing, the food tended to stick together so there was very little fog when added to the tank and more visible particles. If I had to guess, I'd say that the fresh food with it's smaller particle size is much more useful for SPS. But I never wanted to make fresh food on a weekly basis.
I wonder if the fresh food is really better than the frozen, and whether that small amount of sugar is enough to act as a preservative.
trueblackpercula, are you saying that you've kept this food in the fridge for 2+ months and it's still good?
I wonder if the fresh food is really better than the frozen, and whether that small amount of sugar is enough to act as a preservative.
trueblackpercula, are you saying that you've kept this food in the fridge for 2+ months and it's still good?
No increase in anything other than growth from that corals that consume it. I'm feeding it 2-3 times per week. It's a pretty clean feed and doesn't seem to spike nutrients.
Reef Nutrition apparently didn't do their homework
Not all SPS eat this though, but the ones that do seem to benefit from it.
:lol: didn't do our homework :lol:
While not on the label itself, its on our Feed chart and else where.
trueblackpercula
New member
Well to answer your question yes 100% two plus months old and there is no foul order or mold of any sort. I use a tomato sauce jar that has a rubber lid to seal in the freshness. I have kept it refrigerated since day one and it has the same color and consistency as the day I made it.
They first batch I made I used very little and froze the rest and that made it change. It changed color and as you stated it had more particle matter in it when feeding it to the tank.
All I can say is do t deviate from the recipe and give it a try.
Michael
trueblackpercula
New member
No problem my pleasure as this is a hobby of sharing and giving. I only hope that others learn from my mistakes and progress forward. Just remember this food source is amazing.
Have you noticed an increase in Calcium/Alkalinity demand? The Italians who where doing it seemed to have the notion that you needed raised levels to keep up with demand. Also they raised Sr and I, suppose not to be limited in those elements either, but I think that there's not much evidence of demand for Sr and Iodine. The Iodine might have helped with photoinhibition, as they were blasting their corals with 400W MH lighting.
Are you running GFO?
Are you running GFO?
trueblackpercula
New member
Yes I have seen a big increase in alk demand and calcium demand as well. I assume it's because they are growing at a faster rate and need to consume more of it to sustain there need to grow.
I have not dosed strontium or potassium yet but will be very soon. I have started using probido biodigest as a source of live bacteria, with that I will need to start adding Bioptim as well.
I plan on doing a complete probido program that also includes adding potassium and strontium to enhance coral light absorption and color enhancements. I will let everyone know how it goes.
As for adding GFO I do not use it anymore since I started biodigest as it is not recommend.
My PO4 is running between 0.01 to 0.03 and nitrates are very steady at 1 or less.
I am also blasting my sps with my LEDs and actually had to lower the intensity as I was bleaching them out.
Michael
trueblackpercula
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Well I started using this last night and I wanted to report that I got some crazy PE afterwards. Let's see how this goes as I believe it's almost like feeding the Sps but with live bacteria. Lol still using pappone
evolutionZ
New member
My papone is starting to smell sourish like yeast smell. Is this normal?
trueblackpercula
New member
How old is it and did you add the correct amounts of food including the sugar? Lastly is it refrigerated or frozen?
trueblackpercula
New member
Just wanted to share what my blue Aussie stag looks like in such a short period of time. Yes I have been feeding pappone four times a week but now only feed once a week. They reasons for this is too much nutrient import and export more work of cleaning skimmer etc. Second reason is I also started dosing prodibio that is a form of carbon dosing and don't want to have something go wrong and not know what was the cause. In addition my Sps are encrusting very very fast so feeding only once a week will slow growth down.
My stag is starting to branch out and has super PE on it all day.
Michael
Sorry for the bad iphone picture.
My stag is starting to branch out and has super PE on it all day.
Michael
Sorry for the bad iphone picture.
