Steve's 480g upgrade 730g total Zeovit system

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15102021#post15102021 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SuperR*
At the rate your going ... SOONER! :lol: [/QUOTE

You know how it is dude.. You just want to get everything in there till you run out of room lol
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CA RX question...

CA RX question...

Hey Steve,

I'm curious about something... do you know what dkh of the effluent is from your CA RX? I know you have it hooked up to a PH monitor to control the Co2 going into it but I was wondering what the dkh was that's coming out of it?

I've got a Korallin 1502 that I haven't set up yet on my new 150 only because with Zeovit you're supposed to maintain tank dkh of 6.5-7.5. Whenever I've used my Ca Rx in the past it's always shot my dkh up to around 10 or more.

I've never used it with a PH controller but am debating on whether to spring for one. I think this way I would be able to better control the overall dkh and not have a large spike like in the past.

I don't want to fry my corals by spiking the dkh... in the past I wasn't running Zeo and my dkh was always around 10 or 11, didn't hurt anything then but now that I'm running Zeo I want and need to be more careful.

Please let me know on this whenever you can.

Thanks!
 
Re: CA RX question...

Re: CA RX question...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15106248#post15106248 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dave's Reef
Hey Steve,

I'm curious about something... do you know what dkh of the effluent is from your CA RX? I know you have it hooked up to a PH monitor to control the Co2 going into it but I was wondering what the dkh was that's coming out of it?

I've got a Korallin 1502 that I haven't set up yet on my new 150 only because with Zeovit you're supposed to maintain tank dkh of 6.5-7.5. Whenever I've used my Ca Rx in the past it's always shot my dkh up to around 10 or more.

I've never used it with a PH controller but am debating on whether to spring for one. I think this way I would be able to better control the overall dkh and not have a large spike like in the past.

I don't want to fry my corals by spiking the dkh... in the past I wasn't running Zeo and my dkh was always around 10 or 11, didn't hurt anything then but now that I'm running Zeo I want and need to be more careful.

Please let me know on this whenever you can.

Thanks!
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Dave, ATB suggest to maintain the effluent at 22dkh but i go by which ever maintain the Ca and Alk stable because you don't know if that suggestion base on high bioload or low or medium so it is very hard to go with that. One thing to keep in mind about Zeovit suggestion 6.5 - 8.0 but if you maintain your alk stable at 8.5 or 9.0 i do not see any harms with that. Alk swing is deadly. High alk but stable will not kill your corals IMO. From my observation with low DKH they seem to be unstable and risky.

Zeovit also suggest not to run PO4 remover as well as refugium but i have both in my system because Zeovit alone may take months to clean the water.

I have more confident with Zeovit ability back in the day but nowadays it seem to be weak...
 
Steve,

So, then if I might ask, what's your tanks dkh right now? Also, since you're in the beginning stages of the tank being set up (yours has been up about as long as mine, just over 7 weeks going on 8), how do you have your CA RX set up as far as the dkh of the effluent? Are you running it at the 22dkh that ATB recommends?

As our tanks mature and the demand becomes greater we can always adjust, I'm just trying to get a sense of the starting bench mark.

Thanks again
 
Gents, i am working on a CO2 defuser chamber for my Ca reactor. The box will have 3 chambers.

- 1st chamber house crush corals also where the Calcium effluent dripping into
- 2nd chamber will house the airstone to evap the CO2
- 3rd chamber is the return to the sump chamber will house PO4 remover if require :D

Will post some picture tonight...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15107790#post15107790 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dave's Reef
Steve,

So, then if I might ask, what's your tanks dkh right now? Also, since you're in the beginning stages of the tank being set up (yours has been up about as long as mine, just over 7 weeks going on 8), how do you have your CA RX set up as far as the dkh of the effluent? Are you running it at the 22dkh that ATB recommends?

As our tanks mature and the demand becomes greater we can always adjust, I'm just trying to get a sense of the starting bench mark.

Thanks again
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Dave, my alk reading at 9.0. My effluent rate is very slow about 1 drip per second. I have not test the effluent for DKH. I had a very bad swing on DKH when i first start the Calcium reactor. I set my pH at 6.5-6.7 and fast drip also broken stream and it bump my DKH up to 10.5 from 7.5 within 24hrs :(. I had to off my CO2 to let it drop slowly :). I start the Ca reactor back up couple days later and it stay at 9.0 since

Here is my parameter so far

Ca 420
Alk 9.0
Mg 1300
NO3 undetectable
PO4 .40 was .65 last week
K+ 400

One thing to keep in mind Dave, faster drip = high DKH, Slower drip = high Ca....
 
THANK YOU Steve, these are the details I was looking for!

I wonder though, would setting the PH for the RX at say 6.8-7.0 have any positive impact on lowering or "tweaking" the overall dkh of the tank? Setting a "slow" drip rate and raising the PH in the RX, have you ever tried this or would the higher PH not sufficiently break down the media in the RX?

Again... thanks:D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15107909#post15107909 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dave's Reef
THANK YOU Steve, these are the details I was looking for!

I wonder though, would setting the PH for the RX at say 6.8-7.0 have any positive impact on lowering or "tweaking" the overall dkh of the tank? Setting a "slow" drip rate and raising the PH in the RX, have you ever tried this or would the higher PH not sufficiently break down the media in the RX?

Again... thanks:D
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Dave, higher pH slower drip will lower your Alk. I am currently running 6.8-7.0 in my reactor
 
I can't wait to see the new effluent reactor you come up with so I can do one :) You are always the innovator Steve!
C
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15108155#post15108155 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
Wow, the effluent comes out of the reactor is hella high :D over 30 lol
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WOW... and is this at your above stated 6.8-7.0 PH control rate in the RX???

Geeze, good thing you've got 730 gallons there:lol:

I think I may hold off for awhile on setting up my CA RX till overall demand is higher. When I "do" set it up I'm definitely gonna go with a controller/solenoid this time!

Thanks Steve, I'll look forward to the pics of your new toys!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15108202#post15108202 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dave's Reef
WOW... and is this at your above stated 6.8-7.0 PH control rate in the RX???

Geeze, good thing you've got 730 gallons there:lol:

I think I may hold off for awhile on setting up my CA RX till overall demand is higher. When I "do" set it up I'm definitely gonna go with a controller/solenoid this time!

Thanks Steve, I'll look forward to the pics of your new toys!
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BTW, i have a bunch of corals in my tank already but the demand still not there yet.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15108155#post15108155 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
Wow, the effluent comes out of the reactor is hella high :D over 30 dKH lol
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That's actually normal. What reactor media are you using?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15108330#post15108330 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
BTW, i have a bunch of corals in my tank already but the demand still not there yet.
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Yeah, me too... My calcium was already too high but Alk was spot on per Zeo guidelines. I had to use some "other" salt in addition to my RBS and it jacked up my CA to 550!!! Still, alk was at 7.0-7.5 so I was ok.

I've got a dozen frags that I got about 3-4 weeks ago that are all encrusting well at the base and several others that are showing growth as well. Nothing major, but it's definitely there... Loads of coraline sprouting up all over the glass, overflow box and powerheads as well so, I know the calcification process is kicking in, full force!

I'm gonna test my params later today to see how far down the caclium has gone yet or not?
 
ahhh ok that makes sense I suppose it has to be much higher or it would never raise the alk up duhh.......
 
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