Stole this from a LFS

nemoboy1

nemoboy1

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I went a LFS today and saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqu4f3H1TfY

Mouth was gaping but very sticky... They had it since this past Friday... Nem was in poor lighting (led) hardly any flow... It was clearly stress big time. They wanted $249 for it. I basically said it is not looking good in your environment let me buy it at a discount if it dies ( I'm out $$$$) but if it dies here your out of money. Long story short he discount it to $99. I normally dont buy open mouth nem but I hate to see this beautiful animal suffer and die at a LfS whom Clearly didnt put any effort into putting together right environment for any nems. I can go on about this place but I'm not.

I drip acclimate for almost 2 hours. It settling ok with a little gaping. I'm hopping to feed it in the next 24 hrs and btw I'm removing the clown so it doesn't put any stress on it.


???? Gigantea or haddoni
 
I'd go with Gigantea. Kinda hard to be sure, but the tentacle pattern and length looks wrong for a Haddoni, plus the way it is folding looks very much like a Gigantea.

Good luck with it, and be sure to post pics as it improves. :thumbsup:
 
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Update

Still sticky mouth is gaping and closing foot has not planted yet... So I haven't feed it.

Any advice on how or what to do to help him plant his foot...

Overall it still the same size since bringing it home.
 
This is a tough one. Typically I can tell immediately if it's a gig or haddoni. In this case, I don't get a gut reaction. While I agree that most signs point to gig (balding, short tentacles but not the typical bulb shape of a haddoni) the color is what's throwing me. I haven't seen a blue gig that looked like this one. However, I've seen a lot of haddoni with this coloration. It could be the LEDs and camera, but for some reason I am on the fence. I've also seen folding like this in a haddoni.

Have you tried putting it on the sand to see if it digs in? Typically gigs, even sick ones, will plant their foot on the rock that they are sitting on. They even hold on until they begin melting. Regarding stickiness, I wouldn't consider this a sign of good health. It merely means that the nematocysts are still firing. I had a gig that was dying and turning inside out, and it was very much capable of stinging. I pulled it out within a few hours of it releasing tons of nematocysts which fell on corals and stung them badly.

Can you describe the kind of flow you have? Hard to tell in the video. Does its tentacles "vibrate" (quickly sway back and forth) when there isn't any flow? While typically a sign that it's a gig, I have seen haddoni do this as well, though it's also in conjunction with drastic movement of the oral disk. IME gigs move a lot slower than haddoni.

Do you see any verrucae on the underside of the oral disk? If clearly visible, then I'd definitely say it's a gig.

Since the mouth is gaping, I would not attempt to feed it, as it probably means that the nem won't be able to pull the food into its digestive system. If you're getting desperate, here are some things that you can try (keep in mind that NONE of these techniques are proven to work, but neither has any type of medication so there really isn't a cure for a sick gig): 1) shoot a vitamin enrichment additive such as Selcon into the oral disk, 2) shoot iodine into the oral disk, 3) shoot vitamin enriched brine (or other small particle, easily digestable, "low effort" food) into the oral disk.

The idea is to get it some nutrition other than what it may get from the zooxanthellae. Typically, these sick gigs are spewing dead zoox. I personally feel this ultimately causes the demise of the nem, which it why they last about a month then begin melting. My hypothesis is that the nem isn't able to discharge all of the dead zoox and the nem starts decaying from the inside out. Just a hunch, and I don't have any way to prove it.

The reason I am asking a lot of questions to try to determine the type of anemone is because I've seen many blue haddoni pull through the acclimation process, but NEVER any blue gigs that had the same appearance as yours. The bleached ones seem to fare a lot better, which supports my dead zoox hypothesis.

Best of luck, and definitely do keep us posted.
 
Take a picture of the column so we can be sure if it is a Gigantea or Haddoni. If it is a Gigantea, it need a lot more flow than it gets right now.

This my advices if it is a Gigantea. To get my anemone to attach quickly, I often arrange for a smooth (nothing that will poke a hole into the anemone) piece of small rock on top of the column or even on the anemone, slightly compression it (like a bridge across the anemone). Like a bridge, not squashing it. Once it is attached you can provide more flow and not worry that you will blow it around the tank.
If it is a Gigantea and if you are lucky, you will get a very beautiful one, otherwise it will be a roller coaster ride of heartbreak. Good luck
 
I don't see any verrucae at all... Tentacles are like my healthy gig short but not bulb like. It does sway back and forth. That's why it kinda puzzles me what it is too.


Flow is medium to low.

WP was tested and good. Light is 4x48" T5.

I also did the bridge thing this morning. And feed it enriched brine. Not sure if it ate had to leave to work.

I really want this bad boy to survive so I am hoping it will come out of it.
 
Gigantea I would say too. It is rolled up like gigantea do plus the tentacles but it is really hard to tell from that pic.. I agree the blue color is a throw off though

If it is still not in good shape the best thing you can do is keep it comfortable for now.

Very awsum anemone.
 
My elf's has a indentacle one in a show tank for two months a d the mouth has been gaping wide open the whole time it is still like that but so far it eats and has stayed large and colorfull.I am waiting for it to turn to mush but so far so good.I thought he would be dead in a day wheni saw him first.maybe just a strain of bigmouth blue carpets.lol
 
nemoboy1 said:
I don't see any verrucae at all... Tentacles are like my healthy gig short but not bulb like. It does sway back and forth. That's why it kinda puzzles me what it is too.
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Healthy gigs do not have short tentacles. I'm hoping you meant your healthy haddoni. I still think there is a possibility that this is a haddoni since you don't see the verrucae, the color says haddoni, and it's not attaching to the rock. If it's still not attached, try moving it to the sand. We really need to know what kind of anemone it is before trying to decide on the best course of action.
 
Pix is not encouraging but I am hoping it can pull from being sick... If it doesn't I just blew away $$ but I had to try and save it even if its a long shot.
 
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