Sulfur DeNitrators

1 week update

1 week update

So the Denitrifier has been in use for almost exactly 1 week.

As of right now, I have noticed the following:

For the first 3 days(tues, wed, thurs), I ran it at 1 drip/second.
I measured the effluent thurs night at 1 drip/second and found
NO2 = trace amount
NO3 = tank level (about 35ppm)


Increased the drip rate to about 3 drip/second on friday.
measured the effluent again:
NO2 = undetectable
NO3 = tank level (about 35ppm)

So - as of friday - no change

Same drip rate on sunday
NO2 = undetectable
NO3 = about 30ppm / Tank level NO3 = about 35ppm
I used a Hagen NO2 test and a Seachem NO3 test kit along with with some strip tests because I had 'em

So - as of sunday - no change in tank level NO3 but a slightly lower (about 5ppm) effluent reading.

Today, tuesday, I did a full test of the tank:

Ph - 8.1-8.3
Calcuim- 450 on average
Salinity - 1.024
Alkalinity - 190 ppm
Nitrites - 0
Nitrates - 35 ppm

And tested the effluent:
NO2 = undectable
NO3 = 20-25ppm

Anyway - I guess it still too early to tell whether it's working yet. I definately think it's going in the right direction just based on the fact that the tank level NO3 hasen't risen / stayed steady over the past week & also because the effluent has slowly decreased from 30/35ppm to 20/25ppm - a full shade lower on the test kits.

After the effluent gets to 0ppm if the tank level NO3 hasn't decreased enough I can still increase the drip rate up to 6 drips/second.

I'll post again after a few more tests.
 
log man, looks like things are working smoothly. the nitrator is working perfectly, just hte ammt of flow thru it hasnt quite made a dent in the overall volume of the tank.
 
test strips

test strips

Are these test strips worthless or am I missing something - this test is after 1 day of running denitrater (which is not really relevent to make my point about my tank water) and I know darn well I have no nitrites in my tank
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Project started:
Friday 2/3/05: The XL Sulfur denitrator was started with 1 drop per sec. Current tank nitrates: somewhere between 25 and 50, closer to 50...
 
I use those strips for my FOWLR tanks and clownfish growout and I like them. They aren't extremely precise, but they give you a general idea. If I dip one in any of the reeftanks though, both patches stay white. Are they old or could they have been exposed to moisture? The color on the nitrite patch there is a little disturbing. Just in case, have you tested with a traditional kit too?

-Matt
 
they were shipped 8 or so of them in a baggie - so i don't know what they have been exposed to before i got them - midwest just throws some in the order for their denitrifier

two different nitrite test show 0

I guess the strips got compromised along the way - no biggie

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6662274#post6662274 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fishboy42
I use those strips for my FOWLR tanks and clownfish growout and I like them. They aren't extremely precise, but they give you a general idea. If I dip one in any of the reeftanks though, both patches stay white. Are they old or could they have been exposed to moisture? The color on the nitrite patch there is a little disturbing. Just in case, have you tested with a traditional kit too?

-Matt
 
Could you guys tell me what the consistancy of the sulfur media is? Are the sulfur pieces soft and kind of clumpy or are they hard pieces?

TIA
billpa
 
Thanks for the link...still wondering if anybody has gotten their hands on the actual media. Reason why I am asking is because I can get 99.99% pure granular sulfur (around 6mm) but it is soft in consistency and Im wondering if the commercial sulfur media is the same.

Bill
 
the sulfur that came with my midwest denitrifier are like round but cut in half about 1/16 inch diameter and hard

call them up if you want brand etc - as it just came in a bagie with no label
 
DAY#4: I measured the nitrates coming out of the XL sulfur denitrator (midwest aquatic) and are still showing high (25-30). I guess the de-nitrator has not developed enough bacteria yet, right?
I'm still dripping 1 drop/sec and I should not go up to 3 until the nitrates are zero. Do you guys agree?
JNB? Logan17? what say you?
Thx/Alex
 
I would just follow the directions

I am still dripping at a little over 1 drop a minute and will not change until I feel that I am getting an accurate test results and it is 0 - which means I need to try another test brand - this time salfiet

I believe I have commited to being patient on this despite my usual anxiety and the fact that these were to come with freeze dried bacteria, etc - if my current efffluent becomes zero before I change it - then that makes me happy and I suspect might actually keep up with my system - maybe not bite into the preexisitng nitrites till I step it up


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6685280#post6685280 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lemonrose
DAY#4: I measured the nitrates coming out of the XL sulfur denitrator (midwest aquatic) and are still showing high (25-30). I guess the de-nitrator has not developed enough bacteria yet, right?
I'm still dripping 1 drop/sec and I should not go up to 3 until the nitrates are zero. Do you guys agree?
JNB? Logan17? what say you?
Thx/Alex
 
I measured the nitrates with Salifert and I feel very confident that the effluent reading of 25-30 is pretty accurate.
I guess I have to control my anxiety too.
 
despite the seeded bacteria - my instincts are that 4 days is not enough - be surprised - I dare you - to not test it for 7 more days

I am so friggin tired of the anxiety I experience over this reef keeping that I think I am evolving in to being more patient - either that or taking a 44 magnum to it



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6685377#post6685377 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lemonrose
I measured the nitrates with Salifert and I feel very confident that the effluent reading of 25-30 is pretty accurate.
I guess I have to control my anxiety too.
 
7 days... that's impossible. Challenge me to wait 7 hours and I can probably do it, but 7 days... no way... I'll have seizures and convulsions by the 3rd day.

BTW, will the 44 magnum penetrate 2 1/2 inch acrylic? If so I can use it after you're done.

lol/Alex
 
your reef is 2.5 inch acrylic? really - I have never heard of that

funny cause I am having a 120 built using One inch and I thought I was overkilling like no body's business

how do you like the acrylic and what special measures/routine tdo you take to keep it clear of scratches

who built it?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6685554#post6685554 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lemonrose
7 days... that's impossible. Challenge me to wait 7 hours and I can probably do it, but 7 days... no way... I'll have seizures and convulsions by the 3rd day.

BTW, will the 44 magnum penetrate 2 1/2 inch acrylic? If so I can use it after you're done.

lol/Alex
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6685652#post6685652 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
your reef is 2.5 inch acrylic? really - I have never heard of that

funny cause I am having a 120 built using One inch and I thought I was overkilling like no body's business

how do you like the acrylic and what special measures/routine tdo you take to keep it clear of scratches

who built it?

Got your attention Huh? Just wanted to see how good your 44 was...

OK my acrylic is 36 inch tall, 4 ft long, 3 ft deep and has a semicircle in the back that hugs the staircase. Check out my gallery (I don't know how to incorporate an image into the message). It was custom built around the staircase and trim was added to make it "part of the house".
OK, Thikness IS ONLY 1 INCH.
The distortion is incretably minimal!!! and I try extra hard to not have sand on the magnet when I clean the glass. Some scratches are inevitable but it hasn't gotten bad yet. (2 years later) If it gets bad I'll give the scratch kit a try. I 've already bought a scratch kit but haven't used it...
The guy that built the tank, repaired a scratch once but only used one grit and didn't smooth it out with a finer grit so from the "side" of the tank looking out you can see where the repair is, but you can't see it from the front!!!

The tank was custom built by House Of Fish (Ken House). If you need his info PM me.
I hope I answered your questions...
 
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