SYED's 200G Rimless Reef

[syedjilani]

Algae Truf Scrubber (ATS)

Algae Truf Scrubber (ATS)

S.J., tagging along. So far looking good and can tell you are a google sketchup freak like me

S.J., tanks looking great so far. I've actually taken the ATS offline and plan on possibly adding a 3d ATS later down the road. Unfortunately, I found the maintenance and worries of a possible flood with the other one was not worth it IMO. After speaking to many about the topic, so many SPS lovers are against ATSs and it scares me a bit as I've not seen many ATS tanks that look good and have an ATS.

Dustin..... man,

We need to talk more about ATS. what you suggest. should I go for it or as said on your thread, that I used to keep 6500K bulb fired 24/7 on my sump. being doing this it grew a lot of different kind of algae, and cyno moved the area which were receiving strong light. Display Tank was quite clean, no single sign of cyno and algae on the rocks and sand.

Guys your suggestion will be highly appreciated.

 

[Dustin1300]

S.J.,

I don't want to start any debates about the ATS, but on my system I took the ATS offline as I found the vertical ATS to be more trouble than what it was worth. You'll find many SPS tank keepers are not fans of the ATSs but I find very few SPS tanks that are ran with an ATS.

IMO,

Pros:
- Save salt with few water changes
- Cheap to implement (Especially if you build a DIY LED fixture to reduce electricity draw)
- Reduce Nitrates/Phosphates without costly salt/GFO purchases (I don't agree with no water changes, think that is CRAZY)

Cons:
- Stinks up fish room after I clean
- Have to clean thoroughly each week, if you slack on this then you'll have algae detaching and getting dropped in the sump and pushed out to other tanks
- Power Consumption of CFLs/T5s
- Risks of flooding if not designed properly

I'm not against them, just think that I'd rather have a smaller 3D ATS later down the road when my tank is more dirty and fed more heavily since I have so few fish so far. I'm kind of torn currently between carbon dosing (Vinegar, Vodka, Pellets) so I'm not yet certain whether I'll do carbon dosing or ATS to help drive down nitrates/phosphates in my system. For such a large system, I'm leaning more towards carbon dosing because I just need to skim extra and set up another doser pump and buy vodka/vinegar from time to time

 

[WeeJ]

Hi SJ, i think i found a place selling the glass in saudi, Dammam. Check your pm.

 

[drummereef]

Wow, what a journey you've had Syed! Subscribed to the new build.

 

[syedjilani]

Wow, what a journey you've had Syed! Subscribed to the new build.

Thanks Brett,

Things are going very slow..... .... I have completed all 3Ds. I will post it all here.

Stay tune a lot more in one the way....

 

[psteeleb]

Thanks Brett,

Things are going very slow..... .... I have completed all 3Ds. I will post it all here.

Stay tune a lot more in one the way....

Staying tuned, glad to hear your still around.

 

[salali]

I can't wait to see the 3Ds.

Where is the place in Dammam that sells the glass?

 

[syedjilani]

Staying tuned, glad to hear your still around.

Thanks pete..... really thing took a lot of time to be finalized...

 

[syedjilani]

I can't wait to see the 3Ds.

Where is the place in Dammam that sells the glass?

3Ds are here.... I will post it today....

Actually I don't know any thing about Dammam. I am buying glass from Jeddah...

 

[syedjilani]

3Ds of Plumbing

3Ds of Plumbing

So here we go......

Some 3Ds of plumbing.

Option 1

In this cause I will use total three drain, to feed the Sump, Skimmer and Frag tank. Drain one from right to left will open in the sump, second will feed the skimmer, third and last will split in two ways, one will go to sump and other will feed Frag tank.

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[syedjilani]

3Ds of Plumbing

3Ds of Plumbing

Another View

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[syedjilani]

You will see addition of filter socks in Frag Tank..... I am not the man who over filter water. this is in cause of maintenance "blow up sand and rocks, corals" before water changes. To prevent any unnecessary detritus to settle down in frag tank and cause excess nut....

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[syedjilani]

Another view

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[syedjilani]

Another view with stand there...... it looks like Third drain exact over skimmer cup, which will cause problem to open it for cleaning..... NO.... This is the reason I chosen third drain to align it beside skimmer cup. Second drain, which is straight and will feed skimmer without any back flow.

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[syedjilani]

3Ds of Plumbings

3Ds of Plumbings

So here we go,

I have made some changes in Sump, drain plumbings and placement of reactors....

Bubble tower has been moved to Back wall and reactor placed on bubble tower area. Drain Plumbings changed. Drain one and two from right to left has been changed, reduced unnecessary elbows in plumbings.

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[syedjilani]

Another view of drain plumbing.

I moved reactor from back to side wall for easy excess. Bubble tower moved to back wall.......

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[syedjilani]

Another view.

Now reactor are easily accessible..

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[syedjilani]

3Ds of Plumbing - Option 2 - Algae Scrubber

3Ds of Plumbing - Option 2 - Algae Scrubber

Some 3Ds of plumbing.

Option 2

Well. I have decided to use Algae scrubber, for this reason I made third and last Drain from Right to left to feed it. Third drain will split and feed algae scrubber.

It will hang on at the top of Frag tank.....but ...here is the problem. it require to run the light 24/7, and frag tank need 12/12 day and night. . In this cause I will make partition in frag tank with black glass to prevent light from algae scrubber to frag tank.

Below 3D of algae scrubber will change as said.

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[syedjilani]

3Ds of Plumbing - Option 2 - Algae Scrubber

3Ds of Plumbing - Option 2 - Algae Scrubber

Another view of Algae Scrubber.......

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[syedjilani]

3ds of Plumbing - Return Plumbing

3ds of Plumbing - Return Plumbing

Now Return Plumbing.

here it comes.......

As said earlier, I planned to use 4-Way Ocean Motions. All drain will under Sand Bed and Inshallah which will covered/hidden with beautiful rock work.

To prevent Flood drain from DT in sump I will use George Fisher Wye Check Valve. See more detail in 3Ds......

you can see three check valve. The split part of return with one check valve will be closed. It will only use in cause of changing in plumbing. The only straight return from the pump with two George Fisher Wye Check Valve will return water to DT. After two check valve 4-way Ocean Motions will be installed. Any suggestion?

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