The Oceans pH Level Is Falling

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7889580#post7889580 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
Global Warming Myth - Used to push political agenda and obtain funding from NIH. In school I was taught as a scientist to be objective and unbiased. In the real world MOST scientists are not.
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Give me a break. This isn't a money making scam. Do you actually know ANYTHING about this subject, other than believing it's a hoax? You've never been able to show anything to support your argument beyond your bizarre rants.
..."HIGHLY correlated"...again may be causal OR may not be a causal relationship. Without the control group we do not know for sure.
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A control group would be nice, but we do have modeling. Do you think that global ecology and climatology is a fruitless endeavor because we only have one planet to work with? Should we just give up because it's beyond our ability to understand?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890102#post7890102 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kalkbreath
Nor are the giant schools of anchovies that once swarmed that ocean locking up these C02 releases.(by eating the Plankton.)
Remember that during WW II commercial fishing stopped out on the open seas for ten years.
Fish stocks rebounded and the C02 levels on earth DECREASED!
Its all about the ocean.

But what fun is blaming the fishemen?
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The ocean does play a major role in CO2 sequestration, but it isn't a SOURCE. If we removed all of the forests on the planet, and the CO2 rose, would you say that the land was releasing CO2? No, you wouldn't, the land is still a sink. If you burned the trees, it would raise the CO2, but if you ate the trees, such as eating fish, it doesn't get released into the atmosphere. In fact, removing trees and burying (or eating) them would reduce CO2 because trees would regrow and absorb more CO2 from the atmosphere. Which, you say, is an analogy to what happened during WWII when commercial fishing stopped.

But, regarding that supposed dip in CO2 during WWII, I don't see an appreciable decrease in CO2 levels during that period. Do you?
http://fixco1.com/bushguide/Bushchart09.jpg
There are many other times when CO2 levels drop, sometimes more than between 1939-1946. And again (I'm going to keep telling you this until you prove me wrong) you are ignoring the isotopes. It kills your theory.
 
HippieSmell - now you're saying i'm ranting...this is great...are we not the kettle calling the pot black. i reject your junk science. i beleive you are unemployed for a reason.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890372#post7890372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
HippieSmell - now you're saying i'm ranting...this is great...are we not the kettle calling the pot black. i reject your junk science. i beleive you are unemployed for a reason.
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You are a sad little man, "physician". And just like I said multiple times in this thread, you've never said anything worthwhile, and I still don't think you ever will.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890084#post7890084 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aragongod
none of us are going to be around when these devastating consequences result in the death of the world so why are we bothering to get into a heated debate on it???

the earth is overcrowded.

Live life to the full while you yourself have it.

Don't worry about things that are inevitable.

we're born, we die. same old same old.

tony.
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See I have a problem with this answer. Thats just being plain selfish. Your basically saying that lets continue to live our lives while we poisen the earth and by the time we die its not our problem. Man I could not live with myself going by this statement. What about our grandkids. SO its now their problem. What about all the habibtats. So they get to die now? They should die because of natural predation, disease or old age not becasue they are inhaling smoke or global warming is impacting their lives. And yes there is global warming. I can easily defend that. Go for it. Start a debate. I am looking forward to it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890560#post7890560 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
No - I just DO things that are worthwhile for sick people in need. Do you need any help?
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*sigh* Actually, yes. I have a big headache caused by stupid people who don't understand sarcasm. You can cure my headache by lightening up and learning about this issue before spouting nonsense. Savvy?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890560#post7890560 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
No - I just DO things that are worthwhile for sick people in need. Do you need any help?
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So then, the more sick people there are the more money you make? Makes sense to me! Bring on the hot weather!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890596#post7890596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sherm71tank
So then, the more sick people there are the more money you make? Makes sense to me! Bring on the hot weather!
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Actually - No. My income isn't dependent upon the number of patient's I see.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890623#post7890623 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
Actually - No. My income isn't dependent upon the number of patient's I see.
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getting a little to personal I see...haha...I love it when I see people get into on the CPU...its about fish and the weather...haha...at least make it about sports...anyone going up for my argument?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890623#post7890623 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
Actually - No. My income isn't dependent upon the number of patient's I see.
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Once again I can't wrap my head around something. So, if you have zero patients you make the same money? That is simply amazing!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7890967#post7890967 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
Ah - sherm71tank - You see things are not always as they seem. I'm a salaried employee...
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I'm salary also. I wouldn't expect to continue collecting a check if tool sales came to a stop. I would expect to be looking for another job!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7888642#post7888642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
How foolish can you be? - You're argument is correct so long as we already know the sun warms up the atmosphere in the daytime. You are basing you're statement on an already proven piece of information.

If the question at hand is not yet proven, without an appropriate control group, an experiment at best can prove a correlation not causality. It appears you have had no (or poor) scientific training...
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First order of business here is a lesson in how to debate and not get banned <sigh>

First off, it's ok to debate the idea, you don't need to agree with me just because I'm a mod. However, insults will not be tolerated. I won't tolerate them from one member towards another, and I won't tolerate them towards myself or any other mod. I highly doubt you would like me calling you a fool or questioning your scientific training just because I'm not agreeing with you, so don't go doing it to others. It's especially bad to insult the guy with the ban button ;) Be glad I'm not trigger happy and believe in warning people first.

Everyone else would also be wise to keep this in mind if you would all like the thread to remain open.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7888642#post7888642 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
How foolish can you be? - You're argument is correct so long as we already know the sun warms up the atmosphere in the daytime. You are basing you're statement on an already proven piece of information.

If the question at hand is not yet proven, without an appropriate control group, an experiment at best can prove a correlation not causality. It appears you have had no (or poor) scientific training...
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OK, now back our regularly scheduled debate.

So how do we know it's actually the sun warming the atmosphere? Any experiments with the appropriate controls done to prove this? Or is just observation? To the best of my knowledge it's just been observation in the same basic ways as the increases in CO2 and global warming trends, as well as the past warming trends and ice ages that everyone keeps pointing out.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7891210#post7891210 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55semireef
Thanks Bill...this thread is great until a couple of pages ago. Ban button equals bad...hahaa
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Yup, luckily for some I'm in a very good mood after spending a day at the ocean, body surfing :D
 
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