The official WP40 running on controller thread.

[chercm]

how to create anti sync mode with 2 x wp40 using Profilux ?

 

[rigox2002]

hey guys been following this thread for a while. have a couple of questions i got a couple of the RA cables but wanted to confirm how to connect them for use with apex before i cut anything. From my understanding i have to cut and splice the black and red cable from the RA cable to a cat5 orange set and blue set for v1 and v2 operations? I want to make sure im doing this correctly. Thanks in advance.

 

[Heisenreef]

I haven't been following here the last week or so but im going to jump in randomly to brag how great these pumps work with an apex controller and the following programming:

WP10:
Fallback OFF
OSC 000:00/010:00/005:00 Then ON

WP40:
Fallback ON
OSC 005:00/030:00/015:00 Then ON
If FeedA 005 Then OFF


So far I am very happy with this set up. No rigging to run on a controller everything is running on stock equipment. Using the above programming, I get pretty randomized combinations of both the WP40+WP25, Just the WP40, Just the WP25 and neither. I further randomize it daily by running them full blast in WP1 during peak hours (almost sloshes water out of the tank) and then running them in ELSA the through the evening. Night mode also works perfect using the stock light sensors that came with mine and those kick in when the room goes dark.

So Allentown you just have it plugged into your EB8 and run it with the programming you listed? I had mine plugged into my EB8 and the power supply died in less then 24 hours.

 

[Psionicdragon]

Anyone have DIY pics?

 

[infusionluke]

220 gal Apex controlled WP-40

220 gal Apex controlled WP-40

First post ever!

I've been creepin' on this forum for a while, so I figured I would help out.

I have included some photos of a RA cable converted to the Apex RJ-45 connector. Hope this helps.

I use two WP-40 pumps in my 220 gal tank.

My profiles use
9/10ths of a second per side to get a nice even wave in a 6ft long tank.

 

[infusionluke]

Here is a video of the pumps synched together using my wave profiles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPJmWXbB8dk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[Psionicdragon]

anyone ever built one from scratch? no RA cable mod type fo thing.

 

[Sacohen]

People have made their own RA cable from scratch.
If that is what you are talking about just do that and use an RJ-45 connection instead of the header connection

You can get the cable to fit the pump here if you don't want to cut it off your controller,

http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/...Pin-Waterproof-Connector-Cable/630198351.html

 

[Tickyty]

Can the Apex head unit control the WP40 through the 4 0-10V channels or do you need the VDM?

 

[NeveSSL]

It uses the 0-10v channels. So you can use the 0-10v on either the head unit OR the VDM, but you don't have to have the VDM.

Brandon

 

[frogg21]

for anyone making their own Apex cables, you can get 'trim pot' variable resistors rather than using fixed value resistors, to make your voltage dividers with. This give you flexibility with a voltometer to dial in exactly what you want your max output value to be. (cost a couple cents more)

 

[ryngill]

for anyone making their own Apex cables, you can get 'trim pot' variable resistors rather than using fixed value resistors, to make your voltage dividers with. This give you flexibility with a voltometer to dial in exactly what you want your max output value to be. (cost a couple cents more)

Cool tip. Will upgrade if they ever break or I need to make another. :spin3:

 

[frogg21]

I'm going to try to consolidate some of the info on parts here and the APEX/Jebao harness tutorial sites (please someone make a comprehensive tutorial on this at some point), I get emails almost daily and people are needing to know how to make them or get a place to buy them. FUTURE pm's won't be responded to on this subject as I'm not on here much lately, but I wanted to put this post up to try to help as much as possible.

Please get started by reading much of this thread.

See a cord that controls two jeabos off one APEX variable speed (ethernet) port at post #145 of this thread.

for anyone making their own Apex cables, you can get 'trim pot' variable resistors rather than using fixed value resistors, to make your voltage dividers with. This give you flexibility with a voltometer to dial in exactly what you want your max output value to be. (cost a couple cents more). If you don't have a voltmeter, don't mess with it, use two resistors of the same value and it will cut the volts in half, (what you want).
It uses the 0-10v channels. So you can use the 0-10v on either the head unit OR the VDM, but you don't have to have the VDM.

Waterproof LED connector:
There are many that look alike, don't buy the wrong ones. The LED connector you want is this: 3x0.75 SQMM LED Light Strips 3 Pin Waterproof Connector Cable I can vouch for the black ones from Aliexpress, they work. I've heard the white ones do NOT.

DC Jack:
For DC jacks you want 5.5mm x 2.1mm female DC jacks. Get the ones that have pigtails already to make your life easier.

Ethernet RJ45 Connector:
You can DIY with a household ethernet crimping set/materials, OR just cut an ethernet cord you have laying around. (Plan ahead for how long you want the distances to be from the APEX, the cord has to be long enough).

Resistors:
4.7K ohm to 10K ohm have all worked great for me. Recently used trim pots and voltmeter to further dial in the max voltage I wanted. (pots also really helpful in providing a reduced voltage to the speed control wire on the pump when running off a back up battery). Alternately you can use an online calculator to pick resistors: http://www.raltron.com/cust/tools/voltage_divider.asp but this isn't necessary for the harness which just uses a voltage splitter of two of the same value resistors.

There's a new software environment coming out for APEX that should make programming these pumps a lot more fun/flexible. If anyone has Apex Fusion yet, let us know if it helps with programming these pumps!

 

[Sacohen]

Nice post, but your first 3 links don't work.

 

[Reefer_ro]

Hello ,
I write you from Romania .
About this thread , i have a question :
Can i control two different wp-25 with one Jebao stock controller ?
What i need : to make waves in W1 - simultaneously with 2 pumps WP-25, but controlled by the same controller Jabao-stock ( to start both at once / to stop both at once)
In this way i can make complete motion in the tank in w1 mode.

It`s something technical solution , do you have any idea ?

Thanks in advance !

regards,
Cosmin

 

[Sacohen]

I don't think is has been done using the stock controller.

It has been done using third party controllers like Apex or Reef Angel.

I remember reading in this or one of the other threads on the Jebao wave makers that there is a company that is making a controller that is capable of controlling 4 pumps at once.

I think this may be the link, but I don't know to much about them.

http://marinefishshop.com/conch-wave-maker/

 

[the_w00kie]

looking to control 4 wp40's

looking to control 4 wp40's

Yes, I have done it.

If you need more details let me know.

Hi,

I am looking to control 4 wp40's with my profilux. I will need 2 EVG cards to control 4 pumps.

Can you share more info on the wiring to the EVG card, it looks like you are controlling 2 WP40's with a single EVG card and can I see 2 power supplies in your photos - but in terms of wiring the input power to the EVG card there appears to be only 1 set of wires on the right hand side, are you somehow connecting the 2 power supplies together or am I missing something?

Thanks!

 

[Reefer_ro]

I don't think is has been done using the stock controller.

It has been done using third party controllers like Apex or Reef Angel.

I remember reading in this or one of the other threads on the Jebao wave makers that there is a company that is making a controller that is capable of controlling 4 pumps at once.

I think this may be the link, but I don't know to much about them.

http://marinefishshop.com/conch-wave-maker/

Thanks for the answer .
I know about Apex , RA controllers , but it`s a different story...
What i need is that with one stock Jebao controller to control the both pumps / start/stop in W1 mode in the same time .
To buy now... a new controller (APEX , etc etc) is similar like to buy new 2 pumps Vortech in wireless mode ... to resolve the problem:strange:
So, to resume again the question , somebody to know some technical solution for my above request ?

Thanks a lot in advance !!

 

[LobsterOfJustice]

Anyone controlling the DC return/closed loop pumps the same way as these powerheads?

 

[Sacohen]

Yes. I know the DC pumps are being controlled by 3rd party controllers. The Reef Angel to be specific. What are you looking to do with it?