Thumbs up for Ozone!
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mikeguerrero
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Keith,
I strongly believe that my ORP is correct, it's brand new only been in the tank 2 weeks.
I'm an advocate that since I have a small volume reef with great filtration my ORP should float around 400 to 425 mv with of course the aid of ozone; which is set at 50 mg/hr.
If I see it creep to 450+ then I have a problem, that needs to be corrected.
Seeing that my ORP has gradually made the climb to 326 mv without ozone and then gradually each day to a max of 425 mv for the whole night and morning I'm led to believe the following.
When my controller shuts off my ozone at 390 mv. There will be residual amounts of ozone still channelling through my entire tank. Which leads me to believe my ORP monitor will detect this increase and continue to calculate unitl it reaches a point where no more ozone is detected.
Just like you shut off a 50 foot hose, it will still have residual amounts of water in the coils of the hose.
It's a hypothesis that needs further exploring. But in the meantime I'm enjoying a really vibrant crystal clear tank.
MG
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I'm going to my lowering my ozone to 25 mg/hr and see if I still get the same results, I heard that once you have a high ORP, you only need a very small amount to keep you there.
I strongly believe that my ORP is correct, it's brand new only been in the tank 2 weeks.
I'm an advocate that since I have a small volume reef with great filtration my ORP should float around 400 to 425 mv with of course the aid of ozone; which is set at 50 mg/hr.
If I see it creep to 450+ then I have a problem, that needs to be corrected.
Seeing that my ORP has gradually made the climb to 326 mv without ozone and then gradually each day to a max of 425 mv for the whole night and morning I'm led to believe the following.
When my controller shuts off my ozone at 390 mv. There will be residual amounts of ozone still channelling through my entire tank. Which leads me to believe my ORP monitor will detect this increase and continue to calculate unitl it reaches a point where no more ozone is detected.
Just like you shut off a 50 foot hose, it will still have residual amounts of water in the coils of the hose.
It's a hypothesis that needs further exploring. But in the meantime I'm enjoying a really vibrant crystal clear tank.
MG
p.s
I'm going to my lowering my ozone to 25 mg/hr and see if I still get the same results, I heard that once you have a high ORP, you only need a very small amount to keep you there.
mikeguerrero
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I have documented a lot on this thread with my experience with ozone and I have to agree with clkwrk.
My highest ORP reading without ozone was 326 mv and when I first started it was in the 241 mv range.
I gave it plenty of time to adjust like the tech had said before I ran the ozone on it.
Once I fired up the ozone and raised the threshold of the setting to 390 mv, my ORP hit a record high of 425 mv all night and morning but not any higher than that.
Now it took time to get to 425 mv and didn't happen over night, which leads me to believe the skimmer and ozone have purified my tank quite a bit that my ozone unit has been virtually off.
I will be able to monitor it really close over the weekend since I don't see how long it fires up during the day, since I'm at work.
All I know is I come home from work and the ORP is at 404 mv.
I think I've dialed in through patience and careful adjustment. I have asked questions and read a lot.
MG
My highest ORP reading without ozone was 326 mv and when I first started it was in the 241 mv range.
I gave it plenty of time to adjust like the tech had said before I ran the ozone on it.
Once I fired up the ozone and raised the threshold of the setting to 390 mv, my ORP hit a record high of 425 mv all night and morning but not any higher than that.
Now it took time to get to 425 mv and didn't happen over night, which leads me to believe the skimmer and ozone have purified my tank quite a bit that my ozone unit has been virtually off.
I will be able to monitor it really close over the weekend since I don't see how long it fires up during the day, since I'm at work.
All I know is I come home from work and the ORP is at 404 mv.
I think I've dialed in through patience and careful adjustment. I have asked questions and read a lot.
MG
mikeguerrero
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Hi Steve and Ketih,
Last night before going to bed I check the ORP and it was at 404 and climbing...
So this morning I wake up to check out the ORP and it's at 425.
I feed flakes and small pellets and my ORP drops to 409...
This is two days straight that my tank hits 425 and holds it there all night and all morning.
I don't know what happens during the light period since my lights fire up at 12 pm and I'm at work. This weekend will be the first time I'll be able to monitor my ORP with Ozone.
I'm just confident that I did it right, I waited the time I was suppose to with the controller and then I added the Ozone very light. 15 mg, then 25 mg, then finally 50 mg.
I've dialed back to 25 mg, since I've heard it doesn't take much to keep your ORP once it's that high.
Regarding how clear my tank is, you'd be surprised, it literally looks like the old days when your mom or dad would help you clean your goldfish bowl.
Remember how clear it would be the very second the water went in and you stared at it for hours.
It's that clear, may I say crystal clear.
Guys, once you get your ORP where you want it, your tank should do the rest, if buffered right, the ORP is going to hold around that area.
I have a high quality skimmer by Deltec and my ORP being so high, the skimmer is not pulling nothing.
There is nothing to clean...
I have noticed that during the feeding period it takes about 30 minutes to an hour and the skimmer fires back up pulling just what I have added then it stops skimming.
The skimmate is more black than before, I'll have to take a picture of that.
I'm really impressed how efficient ozone and a good skimmer can work to keep your tank healthy.
MG
Last night before going to bed I check the ORP and it was at 404 and climbing...
So this morning I wake up to check out the ORP and it's at 425.
I feed flakes and small pellets and my ORP drops to 409...
This is two days straight that my tank hits 425 and holds it there all night and all morning.
I don't know what happens during the light period since my lights fire up at 12 pm and I'm at work. This weekend will be the first time I'll be able to monitor my ORP with Ozone.
I'm just confident that I did it right, I waited the time I was suppose to with the controller and then I added the Ozone very light. 15 mg, then 25 mg, then finally 50 mg.
I've dialed back to 25 mg, since I've heard it doesn't take much to keep your ORP once it's that high.
Regarding how clear my tank is, you'd be surprised, it literally looks like the old days when your mom or dad would help you clean your goldfish bowl.
Remember how clear it would be the very second the water went in and you stared at it for hours.
It's that clear, may I say crystal clear.
Guys, once you get your ORP where you want it, your tank should do the rest, if buffered right, the ORP is going to hold around that area.
I have a high quality skimmer by Deltec and my ORP being so high, the skimmer is not pulling nothing.
There is nothing to clean...
I have noticed that during the feeding period it takes about 30 minutes to an hour and the skimmer fires back up pulling just what I have added then it stops skimming.
The skimmate is more black than before, I'll have to take a picture of that.
I'm really impressed how efficient ozone and a good skimmer can work to keep your tank healthy.
MG
jay24k
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I would say it's too quick. If your tank is at 230, that is extremely low and it could be either not broken in or possibly a bad probe. I would keep it that new level for a week and then go up a little each week. Stability is the key. Stuff might not happen but I wouldn't risk it. I plan on going up 30 points a week once my equipment comes in.
vypr2002
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anyone had carbon on the return side of the skimmer(wet side) break down???
I have my output from the skimmer dump into a filter sock full of carbon. I recently changed the carbon as I do every 2-3 weeks. but used a different brand. I noticed the last couple days alot of "black dust" on things. like when you dont rinse the carbon good. my skimmer is full of black gunk. I looked in the sock and it was all gone!!!!! can o3 break down certain carbons???
what carbon do you all have on yours?
I have my output from the skimmer dump into a filter sock full of carbon. I recently changed the carbon as I do every 2-3 weeks. but used a different brand. I noticed the last couple days alot of "black dust" on things. like when you dont rinse the carbon good. my skimmer is full of black gunk. I looked in the sock and it was all gone!!!!! can o3 break down certain carbons???
what carbon do you all have on yours?
Bill and Elaine
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I use Carbon on the "wet side" and I have had that problem......that is until I started to use Ken Marine Reef Carbon.....you can get a month out of it before you need to change it and it will not break down
Bill and Elaine
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For anyone using a Venturi style skimmer .......I did a mod. on my skimmer that has been running for thee weeks and seems to be doing great.....I put a 1/4" Y branch into the line going to the Venturi.....on one side of the Y I tied in my ozone generator....on the other side I ran a hose up to my collection cup and tapped a 1/4" hose barb x thread 90 into the cap....I now have no ozone escaping for my cup....This works great !!
TwistedTiger
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Are you doing this in place of the T or along with the T?
jay24k
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Bill are you saying you have your line pulling air from the ozone and any air from within the collection cup? I guess since the top isn't a tight tight seal, it could pull regular air and any residual ozone inside the cup. Good idea.
I take it you drilled the top of your cup, and have the air pulling from there and the other side of the T/Y pulling from ozone correct?
I take it you drilled the top of your cup, and have the air pulling from there and the other side of the T/Y pulling from ozone correct?
I'm wondering what impact this will have on the desiccant. I would think that the air being pulled from the collection cup would be more humid than the air in the room.
Bill and Elaine - are you running this through desiccant? If so, how has this impacted your interval between baking?
Bill and Elaine - are you running this through desiccant? If so, how has this impacted your interval between baking?
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