Thumbs up for Ozone!

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7302478#post7302478 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
I dont think ANY ozone is going to get to your skimmer that way.


It looked like the muffler was outside the tank area, in a room. It would probably work much better in the stand. Much quieter.


Why not? is no different than a tee. Can you elaborate on this.
As for putting the muffler in the stand I don't like to do that then I have to put a check valve to the ozone system , I try to have everything up above the skimmer, so I don't have to use a check valve Check valves is very risky so I don't like to use one, also the skimmer is a 40" tall deltec skimmer and it is outside the stand. Very easy to back siphon with a tall sikmer like this one , I know I run a ozone for many years and check valves go bad..
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7304561#post7304561 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
Why not? is no different than a tee. Can you elaborate on this.

The issue is that theres almost no resistance on that open line, so its going to pull almost all the air from there. On the line to the ozone, it has to pull through a bunch of tubing, and the ozonizer itself.

I had mine setup like that, and then went to the mixing chamber.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7304579#post7304579 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
The issue is that theres almost no resistance on that open line, so its going to pull almost all the air from there. On the line to the ozone, it has to pull through a bunch of tubing, and the ozonizer itself.

I had mine setup like that, and then went to the mixing chamber.
As you see on the left side of the 4 way that hose is the ozone hose and is under air pump pressure .
Look at the picture on the right side of the ozonizer is the pump .the air dryer is on the back you can not see it, the system is always under air pressure pumping air in to the skimmer intake hose..
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Didnt see you had an air pump. So, as long as you have air pumping through the ozonizer (but less air than your skimmer can suck) you shoudl be fine. Plenty of ozone, none escaping at the T.


What problem were you having? This thread gets confusing.
 
7.7 is low but not dangerously low. It was the result of a tank move over or new tank syndrome. The thing you need to watch out for is the swing. My ph after a couple months crept up to what it is now, around 8.1 to 8.2. My point is buffering is not good and you shouldn't have to do it unless it is truely an emergency. Good oxygen and stability is what you want.
 
RichConley,

You are right, my Calcium reactor C02 is empty but more importantly, I had my CA reactor down for about 3 weeks and recently set it back up...

I have a steady stream comming out of the effluent and about two bubbles per second...

Before it use to be 1 drop effluent to 1 drop C02; maybe I need to go back to this setting...

I checked the DKH of the effluent and it's very low only about 15dkh...

I'm waiting for my extra PH probe to arrive so I can dial that onto the calcium reactor, getting oh course the right PH to mix the stuff 6.7 to 6.8.

MG
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7304727#post7304727 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
Didnt see you had an air pump. So, as long as you have air pumping through the ozonizer (but less air than your skimmer can suck) you shoudl be fine. Plenty of ozone, none escaping at the T.


What problem were you having? This thread gets confusing.
The problem i had was sucking noise was enhanced by the Mixing chamber it sound like i had a Beckett skimmer in my living room.
Here is the whole set up never mind the bread box i have all my dry fish food in there. :lol:
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7305235#post7305235 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mikeguerrero
RichConley,

You are right, my Calcium reactor C02 is empty but more importantly, I had my CA reactor down for about 3 weeks and recently set it back up...

I have a steady stream comming out of the effluent and about two bubbles per second...

Before it use to be 1 drop effluent to 1 drop C02; maybe I need to go back to this setting...

I checked the DKH of the effluent and it's very low only about 15dkh...

I'm waiting for my extra PH probe to arrive so I can dial that onto the calcium reactor, getting oh course the right PH to mix the stuff 6.7 to 6.8.

MG
Mike i saw no problem with a PH of 7.7 it is low but not in danger zone i set up my reactor by the tank ALK i set my ALK at around 9 DKH and adjust the calcium reactor accordingly.
if the calcium is little low i fix that with some Turbo calcium.
The ALK of the tank is very impotent that is the one i check always if you have the tank ALK correct the rest will fallow.
 
Steve,

My tank is running 8.4 PH during the day and then in the morning she drops to about 8.1...

I am a little confused are you saying it's okay to run my PH in my calcium reactor at 7.7 ???

I thought it was suppose to be 6.7 to breakdown my arragonite...

Get back to me if you can....

Thanks,

MG
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7306467#post7306467 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mikeguerrero
Steve,

My tank is running 8.4 PH during the day and then in the morning she drops to about 8.1...

I am a little confused are you saying it's okay to run my PH in my calcium reactor at 7.7 ???

I thought it was suppose to be 6.7 to breakdown my arragonite...

Get back to me if you can....

Thanks,

MG
Sorry I was referring about your tank PH.
As for the calcium reactor , i don't check the reactor PH.
I go by the ALK of the tank. I have a standard set like my Bubble count on my reactor is set at about 80 BPM and the outflow about 100Ml a minute.
now this is a two hundred gallon tank so you can adjust your accordingly.
I keep my reactor outflow at 100Ml a minute and just adjust the C02, i just check my ALK if is low i up the C02 some if high i cut it back it is simple for me . after running a reactor for many years i found out all this testing do nothing have a set point and take it from there. when i was loaded with SPS i may have the C02 BPM count a little higher but no set point if the reactor is big enough for your tank it is no way you can go mush with the media your tank alk will be so high you will kill everything so for a start when you get a new reactor is good to check your alk two times a day and adjust the C02, soon you will find the reactors sweet spot .
As for the ozonizer is now 24 hr running with 20Mg/ph i had to cut it back to 10Mg/ph the water getting to clear already i don't need to get everything bleached.
 
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Steve,

Thanks for the heads up, I will check my Alk on my tank and leave it at that; I before had found a sweet spot and I now have a full open stream on the effluent.

This allows me to just up the BPM on my C02 but if that doesn't work I'll go back to getting a steady drip on my calcium reactor and the BPM to match it.

MG
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7306701#post7306701 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mikeguerrero
Steve,

Thanks for the heads up, I will check my Alk on my tank and leave it at that; I before had found a sweet spot and I now have a full open stream on the effluent.

This allows me to just up the BPM on my C02 but if that doesn't work I'll go back to getting a steady drip on my calcium reactor and the BPM to match it.

MG
Can you tell me the size of your tank and the calcium reactor you using sorry i'm getting old i don't remember that good any more :D
 
Steve,

I have a 72 gallon reef with a 20 gallon sump, that's only using a quarter of water...

I have the Deltec Calcium reactor PF509; this has the aqualifter connected to it with the valve all the way open. Effluent falls at a steady stream.

Inside the reactor I have C02 entering at about 2 drips per second.

The chamber remains not too cloudy not too clear; before when I had 1 drop effluent at 1 drop C02 the chamber was cloudy.

MG
 
Ok you good then, just keep checking the ALK and adjust the C02 you be good in a week.
Do you have problem with the aqualifter not keeping your Effluent steady like in a day or two the stream gets slower? i had problem with mine. i went with a small pump but i still have a problem.
The ozonizer is working good on my tank this morning i had to go lower with the ozone now 7Mg/PM the water getting to clear to quick and i smell a little ozone so i'm going to get some carbon bags to put on the cup of the skimmer has about 6 large holes that is where the ozone smell coming from.
 
Interesting side note:


my Orp was at 380. I epoxied 2 frags in, and its been two days, and its still sitting at 315ish. I bet it'll be up to 330ish when i get home, but wow. I didnt expect it to drop that fast from the epoxy.


(to be fair, I'm also feeding like crazy to make sure my new leapord wrasse gets enough food)
 
Steve,

My aqualifter works great; the effluent comes out at a steady stream when the valve is wide open.

I can even fine tun one drop at a time by dialing down on the valve.

The only time I get this hickup on the effluent is build up of calcium deposits in the hoses, I just clean them and then it's back to normal.

Mg
 
Does anyone have any pictures of there method of running skimmer effluent through GAC? I am using a PM bullet skimmer to inject the ozone into and the output is a 45 degree angle. Any simple ideas of something that will not collect detritus or clog
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7303910#post7303910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mikeguerrero
Ozone report...


Now, since the last 3 weeks I've seen my ozone unit never shut off and been gradually comming down to 350 and 325 mv.

Today I get about 320 mv; the water still looks clear but not as clear as when I use to get while at 415 mv.

Mike, this just happened to me. I took the 4 screws off the front of my Sander C50, and pulled the metal piece off. Around the holes, a buildup had formed, and the airpump could barely push air through.

I turned the controler down to 340ish, and when I got up my orp was 355 (and the controller was off), so that was definitely the issue.
 
RichConley,

Before I start to suspect my Sanders unit, I went ahead and called Milwaukee and purchased their calibration solution...

The tech is really a great guy to talk to, he really explains everything in detail...

He told me that I want to get my probe within 200-275mv range, if it's anywhere there I'm okay...

Well here are the results:

Here is the solution
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Here I dip it in bottle water before placing it in solution
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Just before it enters the solution
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Submerged in solution 5 minutes
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Calibrated to the specs of Milwaukee
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MG
 
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