Tiny clam, big in siphon. Is it unhappy?

BeachVacationer

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Just got my first clam today (no idea what kind of Tridacna clam, this place was owned and operated by Mexicans who spoke not so much English)! These little guys, an inch long, are hard to find right now. Anyway, it's been a few hours in my tank and noticed the huge in apparatus. Is this telling me some thing important?

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Looks like a maxima clam. They are typically difficult when smaller and will need feedings until they are a little larger. Also, how mature is your rank? It looks fairly new by the picture. What are your parameters (Ca, alk, SG, trate, trite, ammonia)?
 
This tank is about 5 months old, I used to test early on but after it's been cycled I stopped testing though I do monthly phosphate test still to be sure its about zero. It's a pico 5 gal tank so I do 75% WC twice a week. I use tap plus Instant Ocean and dose nothing. I figure Lake Michigan water plus IO provides enough calcium and other essentials for even clams and snails. I don't have any SPS in this tank. I use carbon and phoszorb. Just wondering why the opening is so big, doesn't this mean it's not filter feeding? I did read it needs supplemental feeding, so I picked up a bottle of phytoplankton and did put that in the tank.
SG is around 32 per those cheapy plastic meter and temp is 78.
 
That clam will quickly outgrow a 5 gal.

Tap water could be the culprit as you don't know what you're introducing... (Copper pipes, chlorine, etc)

IO really doesn't provide much in the way of calcium and alk, you really should use reef crystals if you like that brand. Clams take up huge amounts of calcium.

5 months is still a very young tank.

What kind of lighting do you use? Clams LOVE light.

Hydrometers are wildly inaccurate, get a refractometer, they are cheap and reliable. Your SG could be off enough to easily kill a clam.
 
it's going to be difficult to keep your calcium and alk stable in that small a water volume if that clam gets happy and starts growing. they can take up an amazing amount of resources.

i would definitely look at water quality first. if you're using unfiltered (RODI filter) water from one of the Great Lakes, i wouldn't even want to know what kind of nasty is in that. add in to that a salt mix that is deficient in many of the elements that clams needs, and you have a recipe for trouble.

like mbingha said, your lighting is a paramount concern as well. Tridacna need strong lights.

and lastly, when they're that small, they are much more difficult to keep than when they're more established. they don't ship as well, and are much more easily stressed. judging by the size of that intake siphon, that is a seriously unhappy clam.

have you checked it closely for long term indicators of health, such as a good growth edge on the shell, and strong reaction to stimuli?

did you check the byssus closely and under the mantel near the shell edge for pyramid snails?

all the Tridacna clams should show good mantel extensions, most beyond the shell edge, he looks fairly contracted and stressed.

doesn't this mean it's not filter feeding?

these guys are not filter feeders. they get the bulk of their carbon through a symbiotic relationship with their zooxanthellae, and are able to absorb other nutrients like nitrates directly from the water.
 
Also forgot to ask, do you have an ato? With a 5 gallon you will experience significant salinity fluctuations with evaporation throughout the day.
 
Also forgot to ask, do you have an ato? With a 5 gallon you will experience significant salinity fluctuations with evaporation throughout the day.

i wouldn't reef without it. best piece of equipment i've ever bought, and there was an appreciable increase in growth from my corals.
 
Indeed. But you can get RODI water without a RODI system, as most fish stores sell it at a fairly reasonable price. I don't know of any ways to automatically top off a tank, without having an automatic top off (be it a commercial unit or DIY). ;)
 
I think the point here, is that the op's tank isn't suited for the clam he purchased and unfortunately, will likely die as a result of it.
 
Thanks guys for all your input, I will consider them for sure as I am a newbie at this. Completeness, I don't use RO, ATO is me twice a day using distilled water, I will switch to reef salt instead of instant ocean, and I have 25 watts of LEDs, tank is only 10 inches from led to top of substrate.

Giovanni, you may be right. This little guy might be gigas! I've been looking all over the place in Chicagoland and no one has maximas, several places said they can't get them ATM. So then I found a outfit run by Mexicans in the burbs who claimed they have maximas. So trusted them and bought is guy for $38.

But as you mentioned and after reading this article, it might be a gigas. It's in siphon is large with no tentacles, it shell is white, and it is rather chubby and the mantle doesn't extend that much.

Maybe folks here haven't seen too many small gigas to know one?

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2010/11/inverts

Like this picture, the color is different but otherwise it looks just like mine.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2010/11/inverts_album/DSC03527.jpg

So should I let it grow until it gets too big then sell it, is there even a market for these. Did I just overpay big time for a clam no one wants?
 
It is very very unlikely to be a gigas. I did not mean to imply it was, just that it looks like one. If it were I would be on a quick 1:30 flight up there to buy it and anymore they had!!
 
I guess time will tell what kind of clam it is. But for now my issue is trying to get this little guy to attach to a square ceramic frag plate. It keeps moving around and it even moved off the plate. This morning it was off the plate it it had some filaments attached to the bottom glass of the tank. I gently nudged it off and put it back on the plate. Is evening it rotated 90 degrees and almost off the plate but not attached again. I recentered it tonight and moved sand around him hoping to limit its movement. Hoping it will attach to the plate overnight. I see a long piece of poop coming out of the out siphon tonight, so that's a good sign!
 
We'll it moved 3 inches overnight and loosely attached to the bottom of the tank. So I carefully unattached it and boxed it in on the plate using some stones. Not sure why it doesn't like the plate. I need it to stick on the plate so I can move it later. I know it's not good to break the attachment filaments and I've done that twice now, hoping I haven't caused a fatal injury. I'm wondering if the filaments extend far, attach then it pulls itself toward the attachment point. It'll be interesting to see if it can move these rocks away.

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If it is moving, it is unhappy where you put it. Stop moving it back. It doesn't like that spot for whatever reason.
 
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