Tired of Unreliable Jebaos -- Looking to Trade up to Tunzes

[slief]

One other thought.. If you were to get the 6105's... A 7096 is over $100... An Apex base unit is $275. You could get an Apex Base unit (no EB8, no display, no probes) and a Tunze cable and use that to control your Tunze's.. You are probably scratching your head at this point.. The upside to the Apex to control them is that you can have dozens of flow profiles. Waves, flush cycles, calmer periods during the day, surges, calm at night etc. I have several different flow profiles that rotate throughout the day giving me periods of chaos, surges, calm, flush cycles to stir up and suspend detritus and send it into my overflow along with calm at night. You have so much more control over the Tunze's (and other pumps) which you won't find with a standalone pump cotrnoller. That the additional cost has it's upsides. Then once you get your feet wet, you might find yourself wanting to expand you control and monitoring at which point you get a display, an EB8 and a temp probe, pH etc. Just food for thought.. You can probably get two 6105's and a brand new Apex base unit for less than you might expect. That link mentioned above for the 6105's might be worth following up on as I suspect it will be a great deal that would afford you a pair of 6105s plus an Abex base unit for what you might pay for two newer pumps..

 

[lance1337]

I use a single rw-20 on my 265. 8 months in and hasn't skipped a beat. Makes about a 3" wave when maxed out.

 

[shifty51008]

While i dont have any experiance with the new tunze's sence the tunze's im useing are over 11 years old i would say 2 6105's would work good on a 180, if you need more flow you could go with the one higher or add another just for more random flow.

While vortech's do put out good flow, i know a couple people that get sick of replaceing the wet side's all the time or the bearing's going out. Not sure if that is an issue with the new qd versions though.

I have tried the wp series of the jebao and also had the same issue as not reliable, 2 wp40's died in less than 5 months and i do have 2 wp25's but they are just for backup's in case my other pumps go out, gives me a little time to get money for new tunze's.

 

[biecacka]

I used tunzes in my last set up and I almost shed a tear when I couldn't use them on this tank. I have a eurobraced tank and wanted no wires on the top. So I went with vortech and while I like them a lot. I liked the Tunze too, plus with Tunze comes Roger....and his level of customer service. It is second to none hands down. I think you will love the Tunze, whichever package you go with.

Corey

 

[tom obrecht]

I'm with Slief and others here. I've been in the hobby close to 25 years now and have tried a lot of water movers in that time including vortecs and Tunze. I currently run tunzes and personally feel you can not do any better for flow and reliabity. In that 25 years I have had just about every piece of equipment fail (ballasts, water pumps, heaters ect) EXCEPT my Tunze power heads! Never have I had one fail! Great product that does what it says it will do without question.

 

[Vinny Kreyling]

Bought my Tunze pumps used, date unknown,1st mention of a cleaning was 11/8/04.
They still are running!

 

[mfinn]

I traded for a pair of 2 year old Tunze 6105's and used them for 6 years, then sold them to someone else over a year ago and they are still working.

I did have to replace the impellers every 2-3 years, and had to replace the power supplies on both.
They were very quiet all the time, and I really liked the ability to turn the flow pattern in different directions.
I didn't like the the cords in the tank, so when EcoTech came out with the quiet drive mp 40's I gave them a try and love them.
We'll see how long they last.

I also have a pair of 6055's on another tank that are close to 10 years old.
The impellers and power supplies on those seem to be on about the same replacement schedule as the 6105's.

 

[Bent]

My jebs are running just fine.

 

[shifty51008]

My jebs are running just fine.

Thats not the issue, yes they run but they are unreliable. One can run for a year and a half and another can die in a few months.

 

[Primetime33]

I purchased two RW8 for my 80 gallon in May 2015. One pump failed in October. The second failed last night!! They replaced the first pump but charged me $8 for shipping. Now I have to prob get the second replaced at an additional cost as well. If these things are going to fail within 5-7 months of purchasing, are they truly a good value ?

 

[CuzzA]

Tired of Unreliable Jebaos -- Looking to Trade up to Tunzes

The key to the Jebaos is constant cleaning. Every 2-3 months they have to be cleaned. Power supplies fail, so I imagine a lot of blame is put on Jebaos when in reality many cheap power supplies are only going to last a couple years. I wonder how many Jebao pumps have been thrown away when the power supply could have been replaced. I also imagine that's one of the reasons they have a cheaper price tag because they use the cheapest damn power supply they can get their hands on.

 

[Buzz1329]

Thanks to everyone for all the recommendations and advice.

Slief's show and tell of his battered and bruised Tunzes still performing despite years of inattention convinced me to go with Tunze.

And while-- as Slief recommended -- using basic APEX to control Tunzes would be the best way to go in the best of all possible worlds, the fact remains that I have the technical skills of a gibbon.

So I am looking to rely on Tunze controllers.

That being the case, what do you think of the deal I mentioned in my first post:

2 x Tunze 6155 Stream Pumps (Previous Model) and FREE 7092 Controller Kit for $725 at Premium Aquatics

Pumps have flow rate from 1,050 to 3,950 gph.

The Wavecontroller 7092 can synchronously or reciprocally control the two Turbelle pumps, including wave simulation by setting the two pump outputs to maximum and minimum values as well as the pulse time.

http://premiumaquatics.com/products/...FcEUHwod7KwCzw

Thanks,

Mike

 

[Buzz1329]

Thats not the issue, yes they run but they are unreliable. One can run for a year and a half and another can die in a few months.

Amen.

 

[slief]

Thanks to everyone for all the recommendations and advice.

Slief's show and tell of his battered and bruised Tunzes still performing despite years of inattention convinced me to go with Tunze.

And while-- as Slief recommended -- using basic APEX to control Tunzes would be the best way to go in the best of all possible worlds, the fact remains that I have the technical skills of a gibbon.

So I am looking to rely on Tunze controllers.

That being the case, what do you think of the deal I mentioned in my first post:

2 x Tunze 6155 Stream Pumps (Previous Model) and FREE 7092 Controller Kit for $725 at Premium Aquatics

Pumps have flow rate from 1,050 to 3,950 gph.

The Wavecontroller 7092 can synchronously or reciprocally control the two Turbelle pumps, including wave simulation by setting the two pump outputs to maximum and minimum values as well as the pulse time.

http://premiumaquatics.com/products/...FcEUHwod7KwCzw

Thanks,

Mike

That's a pretty good deal on the previous gen 6155's which are virtually the same as the new ones except the new ones have the built in controller. Other than that, you are getting the same great pump only with the external controller.

If you ever decide to migrate to the Apex, I have a thread here that covers Tunze programming and includes all of my programming which can be easily copied and pasted into your controller.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1994312

 

[Buzz1329]

That's a pretty good deal on the previous gen 6155's which are virtually the same as the new ones except the new ones have the built in controller. Other than that, you are getting the same great pump only with the external controller.

If you ever decide to migrate to the Apex, I have a thread here that covers Tunze programming and includes all of my programming which can be easily copied and pasted into your controller.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1994312

Just placed order. Thanks for your help. If I ever get an Apex, I'll keep in mind that I theoretically can program it to run Tunze pumps. And if I try to program it, I'll immediately notify my family, neighbors, and the FDNY to run for cover.

Mike

 

[Bpb]

Vortechs are cool and have good programming features but the tunzes of equal flow stats move the water a lot more. I am getting bald spots in the and corals being whipped around at the full opposite end of the tank with a 6105 running at 40%. Previously running a vortech mp40 at 100% I never came close to that. The flow is much choppier and doesn't actually push the water quite as well. And it's not a width of output thing either. The wide adaptors on the tunzes are every bit as wide as the mp40 is, and the undertow is just as powerful

 

[dkeller_nc]

Just placed order. Thanks for your help. If I ever get an Apex, I'll keep in mind that I theoretically can program it to run Tunze pumps. And if I try to program it, I'll immediately notify my family, neighbors, and the FDNY to run for cover.

Mike

Ugh. Too bad I didn't see this one day earlier. I'd have advised you to go with the 6105s or 6155s with the included controllers. Two of them can be linked together with the 7092.300 cable to function in an anti-sync mode. But it's also possible to link up to 4 of them together in a master/slave configuration with the 7090.300 "Y" cable (which is an extra $18).

With respect to the Apex, I'd strongly recommend getting one. Not only can you control your pumps and lights with one, but with the corals and fish investment in a 180 gallon, the heater control and alarm functions, in my opinion, are must-haves.

 

[d2mini]

Tunze are great pumps. Dead silent and very reliable.
And my Profilux gave me tons of control over them without needing to buy their controller or learn any programming. You can also buy the tunze "safety connector" and battery of your choice to set yourself with backup power.
As slief showed, they hardly need any maintenance. Even the manual says it recommends cleaning them every 6 months or something to that effect.

 

[Buzz1329]

Ugh. Too bad I didn't see this one day earlier. I'd have advised you to go with the 6105s or 6155s with the included controllers. Two of them can be linked together with the 7092.300 cable to function in an anti-sync mode. But it's also possible to link up to 4 of them together in a master/slave configuration with the 7090.300 "Y" cable (which is an extra $18).

With respect to the Apex, I'd strongly recommend getting one. Not only can you control your pumps and lights with one, but with the corals and fish investment in a 180 gallon, the heater control and alarm functions, in my opinion, are must-haves.

Thanks. I will definitely be supplementing circulation pumps and will keep your recommendations in mind.

Mike

 

[Buzz1329]

Tunze are great pumps. Dead silent and very reliable.
And my Profilux gave me tons of control over them without needing to buy their controller or learn any programming. You can also buy the tunze "safety connector" and battery of your choice to set yourself with backup power.
As slief showed, they hardly need any maintenance. Even the manual says it recommends cleaning them every 6 months or something to that effect.

Thanks. So looks like the "safety connector" is part of the battery backup system? I'll definitely be looking at these add ons.

Mike