Treating with Vitamin C

[ducklabdad]

I have read through this thread from end to end and have been following now for quite some time. I know that there have been a lot of questions about different forms of Vitamin C and that it is the consensus on here that the Bottled Buffered Vitamin c from I-herb is your choice.

I have however seen that both Kents and Brightwells are now marketing a Vitamin C supplement that they sell. Has anyone done any real comparisons on this and how well they are working in comparison.

I do not remember this specifically being discussed on here and if I have just forgotten reading that(one late night) then I apologize for bringing it up again. Just curious if anyone is using these other products!!

and by the way this is a great thread, thanks for having started it.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Yes, this subject hase come up several times. Check the amount of VC in those bottles. I could dose an entire bottle of Kent's/Brightwell's VC in 2 days, dosing the amts I do in my tanks.

 

[ducklabdad]

Thanks for the quick response, I did remember some products being discussed but did not remember brightwells specifically being discussed.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Yeah, it's in there somewhere. Or someone might have PMed me about it--I get a lot of those!

 

[Ncastro1981]

So anyone out there been doseing for awhile at the 12-15 ppm range? I have 120 gal tank and some sumps..ect (140 gal h20+-) and have found the best results right now for me is in the 7-8 gram by weight mixxed in fresh water and added with top off in the AM and PM . just so people with same size set-up have something else to go by.

 

[cjilge]

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Well I have joined the group of VC dosers! After 2 small colonies and one frag have started melting for no aparent reason. I have kept them half way alive for the last month doing regular dips and watching them closely. I started the dose last night, and will be doing pics, and data logs to show progress. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks Pufferpunk, and all that have put forth all the work to find such a great treatment for our beloved wet friends!

 

[Pufferpunk]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14323071#post14323071 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ncastro1981
So anyone out there been doseing for awhile at the 12-15 ppm range? I have 120 gal tank and some sumps..ect (140 gal h20+-) and have found the best results right now for me is in the 7-8 gram by weight mixxed in fresh water and added with top off in the AM and PM . just so people with same size set-up have something else to go by.

Been dosing 15-25ppm for 18+ months.

 

[sabazerehi]

does vit c affect alk? sorry if this has been answered but i just don't have time to read through the whole thread. just found out my tank's alk is over 16! (starting to come down), it's partially due to a bad batch of salt i was using (alk tested at 13.5) i'm just trying to account for the rest of the icnrease. and i don't add any supplements or anything, just vit c.

 

[Jeff]

I think it does raise it somewhat but using bad salt, you cant blame the vitamin on it really. My alk hovers around 11 dkh and has for over a year of dosing vitamin c and using a kalk reactor.

 

[fishnu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14323831#post14323831 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pufferpunk
Been dosing 15-25ppm for 18+ months.

Jeni, 15-25 ppm each dose or per 24 hours? I assume you mean per day.

 

[fishnu]

I have been doing this for 1.5 weeks now and I would agree I am seeing more polyp extension. However I am wrestling with "slime algae" cyanobacteria in my sand. 90% is in a clump on the left side in my tank, the rest is just a tan hint of color on my aragonite.

The fact that I used to feed on my left side may be explanatory.

I am treating this outbreak of cyano like chaeto. I let it grow, harvest. Let it grow, harvest. I suspect the source is that the VC is allowing the cyano to accelerate growth and start taking nutrients out of my sand, and nitrates along with them. However I can't even spell boilogy so don't quote me.

I am also doing some aggressive water changes during this process so it is not a controlled experiment.

How long does this cyano-phase take?

Fishnu

 

[Pufferpunk]

Are you sure it't red cyano & not the brown sline everyone gets when 1st dosing? That's a sign the nitrate is being removed from your system.

I am dosing slightly less alk than i used to before dosing VC.

I dose 1 tsp in the morning & 2 tsp at night of VC daily, into my 100g system. That's about 15 & 25ppm.

 

[Ncastro1981]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14325618#post14325618 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishnu
Jeni, 15-25 ppm each dose or per 24 hours? I assume you mean per day.

for me its this amount every 12 hours.

 

[FiSHy sAy HeY]

I would like to start this method to make my tank pop. How much should i start off and how much should i be dosing after about a week or so?

 

[Ncastro1981]

read through the tread...even just a few pages and it is explained many times. Not to be rude but 2 pages back there is rates for 100 gal tanks....

 

[Logzor]

Has anyone experienced cloudiness in their tank when dosing vitamin c and limewater ATO ?

 

[ryno212]

been dosing 1/8 tsp x2 on my 29g BC for about 3 weeks now...About on my 2nd week my tank got this white fuzz on all my rocks and back glass, so I only dose once a day. will this go away over time? my snails mow it down but it comes back in a day....

 

[Jeff]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14326399#post14326399 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FiSHy sAy HeY
I would like to start this method to make my tank pop. How much should i start off and how much should i be dosing after about a week or so?

It's been answered many times but here you go:
Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=-7152293197697039798&at=0
$5 0ff coupon code: LUL789 (good for first purchase).

To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily. If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.

Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.

You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.

Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.

For every 100 gallons:

5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC

After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.



Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
* If you notice an algae bloom or increased skim on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water for a minute then pour into my overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. I checks this thread daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.

Be sure to take some "before" pics!

 

[Jeff]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14328617#post14328617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Logzor
Has anyone experienced cloudiness in their tank when dosing vitamin c and limewater ATO ?

I dose vitamin c and use a GEO kalk reactor with an ATO. I havent had that problem. You are either overdosing vitamin c causing a bacterial bloom or sucking kalk slurry into your tank.

 

[Logzor]

Yeah I think I sucked in some kalk slurry.