Treating with Vitamin C

[mikejones]

Ok, so I wanna give this VC a try, nothing's wrong in my tank right now, but I wanna see if by adding/dosing it I'll get more/faster growth. I have a 34g. tank and figured out the total of water volume, it's 25g. with the LR. and LS. If I did my math correctly I should use 1/4 teaspoon, that's 5ppm right? If not plz. help me out here..:wildone::hmm5: to understand it better, before I buy it. TIA

mike

 

[Pufferpunk]

That sounds about right. Dose morning & night. Do you have a skimmer?

 

[mikejones]

Yes I do you have a skimmer, should I turn it off during dosing?

 

[rcranf1]

www.iherb.com use this coupon code for 5$ off for new customers RUL302

 

[redfishsc]

No, don't turn the skimmer off. Leave her runnin' and keep her warm b/c you're gonna need it.


I notice a marked output of skimmate in my skimmer when I am dosing VC and any other carbon source.

 

[Jeff]

:thumbsup:

No, don't turn the skimmer off. Leave her runnin' and keep her warm b/c you're gonna need it.


I notice a marked output of skimmate in my skimmer when I am dosing VC and any other carbon source.

:thumbsup:

 

[mikejones]

Thanks for the help guys. How long will a bottle of 16 oz (454 g) last?
Should I buy 2 bottles to get advantage of the 5$ off promo. for new customers?

 

[ludnix]

Ok, so I wanna give this VC a try, nothing's wrong in my tank right now, but I wanna see if by adding/dosing it I'll get more/faster growth. I have a 34g. tank and figured out the total of water volume, it's 25g. with the LR. and LS. If I did my math correctly I should use 1/4 teaspoon, that's 5ppm right? If not plz. help me out here..:wildone::hmm5: to understand it better, before I buy it. TIA

mike

From the previous post:

Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC

You're calculating for 25g, so you should be dosing 1/4 of 1892mg which is 473mg, which would be a lot closer to 1/8th a teaspoon wouldn't it?

Dosing 1/4th tsp in a 25g system would give you a little over 10ppm if my calculator is correct.

Thanks for the help guys. How long will a bottle of 16 oz (454 g) last?
Should I buy 2 bottles to get advantage of the 5$ off promo. for new customers?

I would get two bottles, they are pretty cheap and it seems like I'm already going to be needing to order another one soon, so you might as well take advantage of the combined shipping.

 

[Pufferpunk]

The origional discount code is still good.

 

[redfishsc]

From the previous post:

Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.
For every 100 gallons:
5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC

You're calculating for 25g, so you should be dosing 1/4 of 1892mg which is 473mg, which would be a lot closer to 1/8th a teaspoon wouldn't it?

Dosing 1/4th tsp in a 25g system would give you a little over 10ppm if my calculator is correct.



I would get two bottles, they are pretty cheap and it seems like I'm already going to be needing to order another one soon, so you might as well take advantage of the combined shipping.

If 1/4 tsp in 100g makes 5ppm, then 1/4 tsp in 25g will make 20ppm.


I dose 1/4tsp in the morning, 1/4 at night, in a 45g system with excellent results

 

[Pufferpunk]

I dose 1/4 tsp in my 15g frag tank, 1/2 tsp in 40g & 1 tsp in 100g DT.

 

[redfishsc]

I dose 1/4 tsp in my 15g frag tank, 1/2 tsp in 40g & 1 tsp in 100g DT.

Is that once per day for these measurements, or twice?

 

[Pufferpunk]

2x for the DT, 1x for the other 2 (there are no fish in the other 2). At this point, it's just to keep the nitrate down & corals looking the way they are--like maintence.

 

[ludnix]

If 1/4 tsp in 100g makes 5ppm, then 1/4 tsp in 25g will make 20ppm.


I dose 1/4tsp in the morning, 1/4 at night, in a 45g system with excellent results

1/4tsp in 100g doesn't give you 5ppm though. The stated amount to get 5ppm in 100g is 1892mg and 1/4 tsp only has 1112mg.

If you're doing 1/4tsp twice daily in a 45g system you should be in the ~7ppm range.

http://www.reefsome.com/articles/Vitamin-C-Dosing

EDIT: I really don't think the actual number your dosing matters whether it be 5ppm or 10ppm, but we should really make sure we know what the actual ppm is that we are dosing so we can get an idea of what the effects are at different dosage ranges. I'm not trying to advocate that he would be dosing too much, but rather that he's dosing more than he thinks he is.

 

[guitar8222]

Ok, I just found this thread and I have some questions. I just started using the sodium ascorbate. I am using the same brand everyone else is using.
So far I have dosed my tank two times in the last 3 days. I think I dosed around 10ppm each time. (1/2tsp in a ~100 gallon system)

Each time, my skimmer instantly goes crazy and starts overflowing and I have to shut the ball valve back about 50% to get normal skimming. I could understand if it happened a few hours later, but not right away. I added the vc directly into the water and I am wondering if this is part of the issue. Should I be adding it via dolution and dripping it? Also shouldn't my skimmer be skimming drier not extremely wetter?

 

[ludnix]

I don't think I posted any pictures of the effects of vitamin C so I thought I'd go ahead and do it now. Here's from the day I started vitamin C in september:





You can see there was a pretty good amount of cyano. I could previously control the cyano by reduced feedings, but with vitamin C I can feed as much I want with no cyano appearing.

Here's this month after dosing for 8ppm twice daily:




My frag tank is still plagued by bryopsis from not having any predators, but I imagine if I increased my dosage I might be able to eliminate that as well.

For now I'm going to stop dosing though. I'll be vacationing for 3-4 weeks in December and won't have anyone to do the daily dosage for me. I plan to start up again when I get back and try higher dosages.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Stopping for a while shouldn't matter. Have a great vacation!

guitar, I would back off a some, with 1/4 tsp VC, 2x/day. You can raise it to 1/2 tsp after a week. It is totally normal for the skimmer to skim wetter & you may want to drop the output quite a bit. Keep an eye on your nitrate/phosphate, I think you'll be presently surprised! That's what's in your skimmer.

 

[Pufferpunk]

This hasn't been bumped in a while.

Here are the directions:
Use this product:
http://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=10178&at=0
[violation]


To figure out how much to use, decide if you want to simply improve coral growth, spread, and color. If so, then you should dose around 5 ppm twice daily (down to 2-3 ppm works also). If you are having problems with coral or fish health, dose up to around 30 ppm twice daily.

Calculate the total net number of gallons in your tank (minus rocks, sand, etc). Enter that number here ______.

You will now need to do a little math. The amounts below are for 100 gallons of water so if you have 50 net gallons, cut the amounts shown below in half etc.

Dosing amounts using Iherb product:
1/4 tsp=1112 mg.

For every 100 gallons:

5 ppm ----- 1892 mg VC
10 ppm ---- 3785 mg VC
15 ppm ---- 5677 mg VC
20 ppm ---- 7570 mg VC
25 ppm ---- 9462 mg VC
30 ppm ---- 11355 mg VC

After you have figured out how much you want to dose at each dosing, enter that number here _____. This is your dose to be used twice a day.



Notes:
*Be sure your pH and alk are within normal reef limits before starting. Adjust if needed. Monitor weekly.
*Shoot for a ppm of around 5 or lower if only dosing for improved coral growth, coloration, and spread. Shoot for higher amounts up to 30 ppm if you are having melting zoas or closed zoas and look for the causes of your problems as you dose. Check for high nitrates, pests, zoa pox, predators, and unstable water conditions.
*Dose low amounts and increase the amount slowly over the course of a few days to a couple weeks.
* If you notice an algae bloom (white stringy stuff) or increased scum on your glass then cut back by half until it disappears.
* Watch your skimmer, it will start to skim more.
* Dose the amount twice a day in a fast moving area of your sump or overflow. You may dilute the vitamin c in ro/di water then pour into overflow. If adding to sump, try and add the vitamin c after filtration such as skimmers and reactors.
* If you have a question, ask here. Puffy checks this thread daily.
* The instructions in this guide and throughout this thread are based on using pure Sodium Ascorbate, not vitamin c pills and other non-buffered forms of vitamin c.

Be sure to take some "before" pics!

 

[sweet d]

im going to start dosing vitamin c and i will take some before pics im interested how good this works i have some zoos that arent doing that great lately.

 

[kcreefer86]

has anyone tried mb7 and vit C ? results?