Treating with Vitamin C

Hi, wanted to ask if anyone has tried dosing VC in a nano tank without a skimmer? I understand a skimmer is important but just curious as I'd like to give it a try, but also trying to keep my nano skimmer free.

Georgi
 
Yes, there was a fellow who tried that & his tank crashed. Please don't do it! The VC will bulk up your biological filtration so much that there will be a lot of leftover nutrient die off that needs to be exported by your skimmer, or else the "slime" gets all over everything.

Jeff, Please correct me if I explained it wrong, i don't always get the scientific end of things.
 
You are correct. I guess large and frequent water changes would work but skimming removes the end result of this whole thing, massive amounts of DOC's created by farming beneficial bacteria.
 
hmmm, just thought of something else....just recently began feeding my puffer red wigglers from my compost bin....I can't get them completely clean, and a tiny bit of soil might come in on the odd one...do you think that could be it? I'm talking about stuff that might be a bit bigger than a grain of sand.
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Could the problem stem from whats in the red-wrigglers? The soil in the compost is a high nitratre composition is it not? I do not know but could a significant ammount be carried within the worm?
 
Nitrate spike

Nitrate spike

I bet he's not feeding enough worms to make that big of a difference in a tank that size.

Puff..........I'm tagging along here (for now) and I wonder if Studmaster cured that rock in a separate tub before putting in..??? Ya I know he'll say it was purchased "cured" but it still should be put in separate tub to be safe....than after checking that water for NO2 and NO3 for several days add it to the main tank...just my $ 02....

Anyhow I'm purchaseing some new Zoa pieces (delivery for next Tues.) and I'm wondering should they be dipped after acclumation ( in some form of a fungul killer or parisite killer) and before placing them in my tank ???

thks for your thoughts

Dick
 
Puff..........I'm tagging along here (for now) and I wonder if Studmaster cured that rock in a separate tub before putting in..??? Ya I know he'll say it was purchased "cured" but it still should be put in separate tub to be safe....than after checking that water for NO2 and NO3 for several days add it to the main tank...just my $ 02....

Anyhow I'm purchaseing some new Zoa pieces (delivery for next Tues.) and I'm wondering should they be dipped after acclumation ( in some form of a fungul killer or parisite killer) and before placing them in my tank ???

thks for your thoughts

Dick

saltydog64;

good point about curing, I did allow the rock to sit in a bucket of tank water for 2-3 days with a powerhead pointed right at it. I'm not sure if that was long enough, but I did test the water for Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates and all where the same as the main tank water.

As far as the worm point from another poster...that is a very good point....the worms would probably be full of "nitrogen rich soil" that they were just about ready to get rid of. They say it's the best fertilizer, so logically it MUST have a lot of nitrates in it?!?! Feeding my puffer 4 worms a day for a few days....even in a 50 galloon, could add up right? That's something I never though of.

A solution would be to remove the worms from the composter, put them in a clean plastic container with holes on the lid for them to breath and let them get rid of what's inside them, THEN feed them to my puffer.

That might explain the sudden jump in nitrates when Ammonia and Nitrites didn't move at all.
 
Puff..........I'm tagging along here (for now) and I wonder if Studmaster cured that rock in a separate tub before putting in..??? Ya I know he'll say it was purchased "cured" but it still should be put in separate tub to be safe....than after checking that water for NO2 and NO3 for several days add it to the main tank...just my $ 02....
Very possible, which is why i asked how much rock it was. A tiny amount wouldn't matter much but se3veral lbs would. LR takes weeks, not days to cure. ;)

Anyhow I'm purchaseing some new Zoa pieces (delivery for next Tues.) and I'm wondering should they be dipped after acclumation ( in some form of a fungul killer or parisite killer) and before placing them in my tank ?
Depends on whether you trust the supplier or not, to have "clean" corals.
 
Yes, there was a fellow who tried that & his tank crashed. Please don't do it! The VC will bulk up your biological filtration so much that there will be a lot of leftover nutrient die off that needs to be exported by your skimmer, or else the "slime" gets all over everything.
You are correct. I guess large and frequent water changes would work but skimming removes the end result of this whole thing, massive amounts of DOC's created by farming beneficial bacteria.

Well I'm glad I asked then. If i get a skimmer I might give it a try, until then no dosing for me.
Thanks!
 
Very possible, which is why i asked how much rock it was. A tiny amount wouldn't matter much but se3veral lbs would. LR takes weeks, not days to cure. ;)


Depends on whether you trust the supplier or not, to have "clean" corals.

Puff............Ok !! but Im really kind of "old" fashion and very cautious as what goes in the md soooooooooo what would u do to be safe AND not knowing the source :rollface::rollface:as I don't want the little guys to go:blown: once in my tank....

Stud.....on the live rock, i if figured u knew, but had to ask....also poster could be right on the soil residues.....as always good luck

Dick
 
Puff............Ok !! but Im really kind of "old" fashion and very cautious as what goes in the md soooooooooo what would u do to be safe AND not knowing the source :rollface::rollface:as I don't want the little guys to go:blown: once in my tank....

Stud.....on the live rock, i if figured u knew, but had to ask....also poster could be right on the soil residues.....as always good luck

Dick

Saltydog64, well I knew I had to cure the rock, but apparently not as long as I did...hopefully nothing is slowly leaking.

My guess is it might be the super highly concentrated nitrate worm poo that's still yet to be excreted (yeah its gross, but it could be true). There is a lot because last night I opened the worm container that was completely cleaned the night before and it was now full of "fertilizer". I'll fast the worms for a couple days prior to feeding and see if that helps.
 
Saltydog64, well I knew I had to cure the rock, but apparently not as long as I did...hopefully nothing is slowly leaking.

My guess is it might be the super highly concentrated nitrate worm poo that's still yet to be excreted (yeah its gross, but it could be true). There is a lot because last night I opened the worm container that was completely cleaned the night before and it was now full of "fertilizer". I'll fast the worms for a couple days prior to feeding and see if that helps.

Studmaster....

I figured you did.....now this is completly off the topic of this thread, so I hope Puff and crew willn't mind.....:celeb3:...but let's try this, take a small amount of RO water or distilled if u don't have any, and first check it for NO3 of course it will be zero none-the-less, now take some of that worm poo and stir it in and wait, I don't know for awhile, then recheck for NO3, this could be interesting and just might answer that ??? u have on the fertilizer issue...just a thought...
 
Just order my 2nd and 3rd bottle of VC - nitrates dropped from 40+ to ~8ppm in just about 4 weeks, dosing 1tsp 2Xs a day. This has been the best thing I've ever done for my tank!
 
You can certainly dose or drip Kalk at the same time you are dosing VC.
I do but regarding vinegar, dose vinegar and VC at lower amounts if running them together since they both are carbon sources. I run VC and sugar. This will avoid a bacterial bloom.
 
Jeff, I don't think mixing sources can definitively rule out the creation of bacterial blooms.
 
Hi Nate. I built that group of sentences wrong in that post lol. When I said "This will avoid a bacterial bloom", I meant to say that right after saying "dose vinegar and VC at lower amounts", not after "I run VC and sugar". In other words, I meant to suggest running at lower amounts if combining 2 carbon sources since they do the same thing in that regard. It does look like I meant that if you run 2 sources of carbon you will avoid a bloom.
 
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