Triton Test Results

D

doctorwhoreefer

In Memoriam
Didn't see a thread that encompassed test results.

Hoping to receive mine soon, but wondering if there's any other people out there who've tested their tank. I'm more interested in freshly mixed salt, by brand, but until enough tests are done.... :)

Post your test results please!
 
So far I think I've also found 2-3 RC/IO results, I believe 2 of 3 had elevated lithium. The creator himself mentioned something on the forum about '80-90% of US test results have elevated lithium so far'

This may indeed coincide with RC being one of the most popular salts. (in the US)

Let's see those test results! (still awaiting mine, hopefully I made it in before the holiday)
 
I'm also not thinking that slightly elevated lithium is any concern. It is not very toxic and NSW levels are quite low. Its biological properties (such as a drug in humans) happen at far, far higher levels. :)
 
Eh, it may appear harmless but it's not at the same level as NSW from the tests I've seen so far.

Even elevated Vitamin A can be a problem though part of our diet.

At least the fish will have less psychotic tendancies right? :D
 
doctorwhoreefer said:
Eh, it may appear harmless but it's not at the same level as NSW from the tests I've seen so far.

Even elevated Vitamin A can be a problem though part of our diet.

At least the fish will have less psychotic tendancies right? :D
Click to expand...

You are right, it is not at NSW levels. But it also far, far below known toxic levels.

You can see the studies here:

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC36197

Especially in seawater, where it competes with massively higher sodium, and other cations, it is almost nontoxic.

Sea urchin embryos are usually among the most sensitive inverts, and in that link it took more than 2 million ug/l lithium to be toxic. :)
 
There's worse issues than the lithium issues out there. I'll give you one hint that cane back but won't name salt. Elevated magnese. This is nasty stuff that can burn coral and intefere with photosynthesis and cause too much oxygen in zoonth. Abd hence fry your coral. And I have some first hand experience with one of salts this may have happened with. Stay tuned. Not sure I really want to put any manufact. On the defense either.
 
Ok. I would also say that I have tried to fool the triton system and I sent 2 exact samples but labeled them differently. They came back identical. So this is no random thing. It is at least consistent.
 
The problem with manganese is what form is it in. Some are definitely a problem, some are completely inert for our purposes. ICP doesn't tell you what form it's in, or what compounds it might be part of. The plasma just rips molecules apart so the elements can be identified. While knowing what elements and their concentrations is useful, it is only a part of the story.
 
hedgedrew said:
Elevated magnese.
Click to expand...

Please do share the brand, this is one of the reasons I enjoy seeing the advent of the Triton test, we can filter out the manufacturers who are slacking. :)

If they do see it, so what, they can't sue. But they can approach with revisions to quality control..

Bottom line though, until we get a lot of tests of freshly mixed water, the elevations could be indirect and have nothing to do with the salt. (even if parameters are pefect this too could be the case via dosing etc)
 
CJBuckeyes said:
Here's my results from my tank. I use ESV salt.
Click to expand...

Thank you sir!

Keep em coming everyone! Though the ICP test may not tell forms etc, at least we have a better idea than the few parameters we could measure with before with at home kits, or minus the really expensive tests that precede the Triton.
 
Randy Holmes-Farley said:
Why not?
Click to expand...

Ok, so that might not be a finite statement, but I would find it highly irregular given the trash talking that goes on about other products! hehe


To the subject at hand though, perhaps you might divulge some thoughts on the interaction between Lithium and other elements in the tank?
I've done a little reading though I'm not a chemistry wiz by any standards, but the thought occurred to me, could the Lithium be reacting with other components in the tank following other routes that could be determined as unwelcome? (not necessarily negative; of course water changes are to be expected, but if delayed then....)

I see some stuff about Lithium reacting with Calcium Hydroxide, though it looks it may be temperature dependant? Even wikitpedia statest: "Trace amounts of lithium are present in all organisms. The element serves no apparent vital biological function, since animals and plants survive in good health without it. Non-vital functions have not been ruled out."

I'm curious about that last sentence, but wonder if we might be looking too heavily in the direction of direct correlation, as to what elevated levels could do.

I'm not saying anything about tanks that use RC/IO but it's more of a curiosity for expanding my own personal knowledge of aqueous environments. :)
 
Lithium is chemically VERY similar to sodium, which really limits what it might do from a tox perspective in an environment where the sodium is present at 19,000 times the concentration.

Lithium does not interact very much with other ions in seawater. Like sodium, a small portion likely ion pairs with carbonate and sulfate, but that would account for only a very tiny fraction of the carbonate and sulfate in seawater.
 
hedgedrew said:
There's worse issues than the lithium issues out there. I'll give you one hint that cane back but won't name salt. Elevated magnese. This is nasty stuff that can burn coral and intefere with photosynthesis and cause too much oxygen in zoonth. Abd hence fry your coral. And I have some first hand experience with one of salts this may have happened with. Stay tuned. Not sure I really want to put any manufact. On the defense either.
Click to expand...

what levels of manganese are we talking about?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

C
High Zinc in ICP Test & Switching to ATI Essentials – Need Advice
Replies
17
Views
3K
Reefing102
Reefing102
F
Re-using salt (crazy idea)
Replies
14
Views
2K
DjPhato
DjPhato
S
Phosphate flow out of live rock
Replies
0
Views
1K
SantaMonica
S
L
Should have known better.
Replies
2
Views
837
lb013
L
xLennie
Strange Orange Dots. Please help
2
Replies
29
Views
3K
xLennie
xLennie
Back
Top