Two Newest Additions, True Percs **PICS**

[cham]

Just put them in a few minutes ago. The LFS said they are true percs and were wild caught. They came out of seperate tanks and they did fight in the acclimation bucket (oops) but as soon as I put them into the tank together they stopped fighting and stay together. They did check out my condy anemone but looked like it stung its nose.

I believe they have to get coated with the mucus first or something of that sort. Im a anemone/clown newbie. Had many other sea life before, just not these.

I hope they dont kill each other and end up in my RBTA.

 

[jawaiianmon]

looking good!

 

[cham]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8159612#post8159612 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jawaiianmon
looking good!

Can you tell if they are true percs?

Did some reading. I thought the smaller one got killed in the acclimation bucket because when I took the lid off to see how they were doing the little guy was floating at the top twitching. So I took him out and put him in the tank and he swam just fine. At the LFS the same one was also twitching, like it was having a seasure/stroke (it was in a cubical next to another larger perc) and the LFS gave me a deal on him since he was acting wierd.

From what I have read, it looks like he is just displaying his submission. I hope thats what he is doing.

 

[BristlewormKing]

I have never noticed the ones I have twitching at the top of the water (floating) - usually next, or perpenticular to the front of, the more dominant clown. Since you didn't quarantine the pair, hopefully there is nothing wrong with the little guy. As long as he is eating by tomorrow (hopefully tonight), that is an indication that he will be OK. Since you are in Winter Garden, I assume you went somewhere like Ocean Blue or Seven Seas. If the little one is not eating tomorrow, you might want to stop by one of those places and pick up some Garlic Xtreme (or any brand of Garlic extract) to get them hungry and to boost their immune system. If things don't look right by tomorrow, you might want to quarantine the clowns in case there is a problem (or it could spread to the rest of your tank). Good Luck - and make certain you get a copy of Wilkerson's book (Clownfishes)!

 

[cham]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8159910#post8159910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BristlewormKing
I have never noticed the ones I have twitching at the top of the water (floating) - usually next, or perpenticular to the front of, the more dominant clown. Since you didn't quarantine the pair, hopefully there is nothing wrong with the little guy. As long as he is eating by tomorrow (hopefully tonight), that is an indication that he will be OK. Since you are in Winter Garden, I assume you went somewhere like Ocean Blue or Seven Seas. If the little one is not eating tomorrow, you might want to stop by one of those places and pick up some Garlic Xtreme (or any brand of Garlic extract) to get them hungry and to boost their immune system. If things don't look right by tomorrow, you might want to quarantine the clowns in case there is a problem (or it could spread to the rest of your tank). Good Luck - and make certain you get a copy of Wilkerson's book (Clownfishes)!

Thanks for the info. I got them from Fish Bowl and the one that is acting funny was in their tanks for 30 days. He was on hold but when the customer came to get him, there was a larger one they took instead.

I do have a QT tank and sponge for AQ 70 aged in my fuge. But I only have chromis and one yellow tang at this time. If there was an outbreak it wouldnt be a major loss. I did turn my UV on and will leave it on for awhile just to be safe, not that it is the cure all.

There wasnt much room (water) in the bucket (LFS didnt put much in the bags) so the bucket was on end and the larger clown had it pushed in a corner that kinda forced it to the surface. It did have its belly facing him, but who knows what was really going on there. I can only watch them for a few days and time will tell.

They both ate inside one hour of being in the tank. I usually dont try and feed that soon but I noticed they were nipping at stuff so I tossed some flake in. I was very suprised to see them both agressively eating flake so soon.

 

[waterfaller1]

It looks like one true and one Oscellaris. And your condi will eat you clowns possibly,not host them. There are no clowns in the atlantic, and getting a condi to host clowns is rare.Edit: ahh..I see you do have an RBTA..good deal. I'd suggest removing the condi...different anemones should really not be in one system. Good luck with them.

 

[cham]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8159956#post8159956 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by waterfaller1
It looks like one true and one Oscellaris. And your condi will eat you clowns possibly,not host them. There are no clowns in the atlantic, and getting a condi to host clowns is rare.Edit: ahh..I see you do have an RBTA..good deal. I'd suggest removing the condi...different anemones should really not be in one system. Good luck with them.

RBTA came from your place

Stangely when I bought the condi it was being hosted by a maroon. But that still leaves the issue of chemical warfare. They have been in the same tank about 3 weeks now. Not sure what they are going to do. If it comes down to a $50 RBTA or $10 condi I think we all know who will get the boot.

 

[OrionN]

The darker color clown is A. ocellaris (100% sure). The more orange clown I am not sure. Batter picture needed to tell the species.
Great looking pair.

 

[Me No Nemo]

One true and one false. True's have an orange circle around the eye and false black. You can see that in the pic

 

[Me No Nemo]

Very nice, btw. Great looking pair. I have a true and false in the lps tank and they are great together but they won't breed. GL with them. Marcye

 

[ChunksInClemson]

Yes, there is a chance of them breeding. Its been done many times. The eye characteristc of telling them apart isnt always true either. The only way to tell is by counting dorsal spines. Having brain fart and cant rmbr which one has more than the other. Maybe someone else will chime in...

 

[Me No Nemo]

I was just observing that mine won't breed. They've been together a long time but have shown no interest.

 

[Me No Nemo]

From clownfish breeder JHardman:

"It is really a lot easier than it may seem.

The two species A. ocellaris aka false percula, percula, common clownfish and A. percula aka true percula, percula, common clownfish are very closely related and share many of the same characteristics.

From a simple observation point of view of adult fish, most but not all A. percula will have a lot of black around their bars while A. ocellaris have very thin black edging next their bars.

But because a young A. percula will look almost exactly like an A. ocellaris of the same age, the only reliable method is to look at the outer ring of the eye.

A. percula have a clear orange outer ring.

A. ocellaris have a muddy orange outer ring with browns and/or black colors mixed in making it look "muddy".

Some will tell you to count dorsal spines and the like, but these are not reliable, as the number of spines in each species varies and the ranges for each species overlaps.

Its all in the eyes. "

The dorsal fins are not always easy to ID by, but the true will have either one or two more than the false...the true perc has either 10 0r 11.

 

[cham]

Good info, thanks Marcye.

Kinda dissapointing, I was hoping they would both be true perc's. Breeding is something cool to see too.

Oh well.

 

[slcw]

is yours a new tank setup?
LR yet to be covered with coralline algae. hehehe

nice percula clowns.

 

[cham]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8162762#post8162762 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by slcw
is yours a new tank setup?
LR yet to be covered with coralline algae. hehehe

nice percula clowns.

Base rock seeded with live

 

[dc]

They're both cool looking anyway. My percs still lay sideways at night, at the top even after a year.

 

[phender]

Cheer up. They both look like ocellaris to me. The little one is just more darkly pigmented so his eye looks darker than the other. The larger one still looks like it has a muddy colored iris, plus its just has an ocellaris look. (sorry I can't explain all that goes into an ocellaris look.)

 

[FFFrog]

I think they are both ocellaris.

 

[1jared1]

I agree with fffrog. Both are ocellairs.