Ugh, sometimes I'm crazy...

Gorgeous blue line angel you have their, Peter! The other new fish are also very nice pick ups.



So how is it that you guys are able to get these more finicky fish to eat pellets when I can't get some of my "easy" fish to take to them? Could you share how you do this, I've thrown almost every brand of pellet food at my dottybacks and they won't have anything to do with it?

Thanks! Well I certainly don't wait for fish to be eating pellets before taking them out of QT. Sometimes I'm lucky, sometimes I'm not. This regal took forever! And is still quite skinny, so I wouldn't say out of the woods yet. The chrysurus I'm not surprised about. The blueline nips at pellets, but I'm not sure it's enough. He'll get frozen supplements if not. When Kevin says he's going to send me the nicest one of the bunch, though, I'm not surprised it's eating pellets!

Dottybacks? Hmmm, I don't even recall if mine ever ate pellets. They are mini-predators, so may take a while... especially fast sinking pellets that just sit on the floor. Tried flake?
 
I've tried flake with these fish as well. In both cases they try a flake/pellet, then they decide they don't like it. Any other food offered during this feeding is then ignored. Next feeding (roughly 4 hours later) I go back to offering what they like.
 
peter, saw your vid in the lounge and the fish are gorgeous!

kyle, have you tried feeding arctipods? i have a dottyback in my 29g and he eats this stuff like crazy. i use the arctipods and the r.o.e. my experience is limited with small tanks, of course, but i have yet to find a fish that won't eat this stuff. even my brittle star dances all over the tank when i feed. :)

http://arctipods.com/
 
i dunno. he's still cruising around this morning so i suspect he pucked it back up. hope he doesn't get a taste for them or i'm gonna hafta put him in time out!
 
I haven't used the Arcti pods yet. The dottyback isn't finicky when it comes to frozen foods (eats mysis, brine, krill, etc. everything in Rod's food pretty much). It won't accept pellet or flake as a food for now (something I really would prefer for when the school work starts piling on since it can be fed through an auto feeder.
 
Just tried something... I have a pair of orchid dottybacks from Diver's Den and a lone orchid dottyback from LiveAquaria. The LiveAquaria specimen refuses to eat pellets, as do the two springeri from LiveAquaria. Don't even try it more than once per offering. I haven't tried feeding pellets to the DD pair until today, and they were eating them with gusto. Go figure....
 
Just tried something... I have a pair of orchid dottybacks from Diver's Den and a lone orchid dottyback from LiveAquaria. The LiveAquaria specimen refuses to eat pellets, as do the two springeri from LiveAquaria. Don't even try it more than once per offering. I haven't tried feeding pellets to the DD pair until today, and they were eating them with gusto. Go figure....

Sometimes when I thaw out my mysis and am soaking it in whichever supplement I happen to have chosen, I will add some pellets, so they take on the flavor and smell of the mysis. Not sure if it helps, but it at least seems like a good idea.

The only fish that really eat the pellets with much vigor are my potters angel and my Bluethroat trigger. The Semilarvatus, Eibli, PBT, Black Dog Face puffer and Borbonius anthias don't seem interested.

If I had one giant pellet the puffer would eat it, but it would have to be the size of an Peanut M&M.
 
Good news: Confirmed, the teeny blueline is eating ON Formula 2 pellets, and actually swallowing them :) Of course the regal and chrysurus also eat them

Bad news: The fowleri has stopped eating, remains a "dark" color, and breathes pretty quickly. I'll give it a day or two before I react. I'm thinking just getting used to the cupramine.
 
I noticed in the video he kinda stayed in the same spot, he almost acted bullied. Hopefully he comes around for you. How long has has he been in there?
 
Mine didn't handle cupramine well. He also stopped eating and was very reclusive in qt, but his appetite picked right up once he went into the DT.
 
I noticed in the video he kinda stayed in the same spot, he almost acted bullied. Hopefully he comes around for you. How long has has he been in there?

Since Tuesday before last, with the regal the whole time. He actually intimidated the regal during feeding.

Mine didn't handle cupramine well. He also stopped eating and was very reclusive in qt, but his appetite picked right up once he went into the DT.

Thanks for the info, good to know.
 
Mine didn't handle cupramine well. He also stopped eating and was very reclusive in qt, but his appetite picked right up once he went into the DT.

This behavior started the same time I did my third dose of Cupramine, so it fits the timeline. I may remove the med in a week if he doesn't improve, and then begin the long waiting process to make sure everyone is ich free (since the angels likely are, it hinges on the tang).
 
Peter, I saw earlier you said you run cupramine at about 0.3 for 4 weeks usually. Can you give me a rundown of your typical copper treatment? You said above you split it out into three doses, spaced how far apart? What does the dosage per gallon work out to be to get to 0.3? Are there any kind of fish you don't use copper on?
 
Peter, I saw earlier you said you run cupramine at about 0.3 for 4 weeks usually. Can you give me a rundown of your typical copper treatment? You said above you split it out into three doses, spaced how far apart? What does the dosage per gallon work out to be to get to 0.3? Are there any kind of fish you don't use copper on?

I usually do the following. Because it's a small tank, I use the drops/gallon method to measure my dosing, then use a Salifert test kit to approximate the concentration. I say approximate because if anyone can definitively say what exact concentration they are running based on that color chart, they are a god to me ;).

Day 1: 1 drop per gallon.

Day 3: 1 drop per gallon.

Day 4 or 5: 1 drop per 1 or 2 gallons. These "or"s depend on the fish involved.

This falls in line with Seachem stating that about 4 drops per gallon gets you to 0.5. For the FOWLR there isn't a single fish that goes into the tank without copper.
 
Peter last time I used copper I couldn't get the test kit to work for me. Because of this I dosed no further after my first dose and did some large water changes.
 
Good update: The fowleri ate a few pellets last night. Hopefully this means he's adjusting to the copper.
 
Update: The fowleri is eating well, as is the blueline angel (pellets).

The chrysurus stopped eating a few days ago, and the regal's appetite has been waining. I saw long white stringy poop from the regal today (first time ever... I've had the fish for many months, but never treated), so I did a water change and added prazi.
 
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