Urgent! Flatworm Exit Help

[ostrow]

Ok, so I finally got fed up with the flatworms in my fuge. Took out the 3yr old bottle of flatworm exit from when I first bought my tank from Scott A's friend.

Anyway, talked to Rod first after reading directions, can't get a hold of him now.

So, for those who have used it. It being the fuge and all, it was almost impossible to do any significant siphoning of the buggers in advance. So I cut off the water flow into the fuge and treated it separately (the display is fine ... thank you radiant wrasse!). It's a 75 gal fuge so I based the dose on that, not the whole system. Drained it below the bulkhead so maybe took 15gal out.

Then dosed probably 1.25 drops a gallon. It came out faster than I expected.

Left it in a half hour or so, flatworms floating everywhere, water all yellow (that surprised me).

Siphoned again, got maybe 35 gallons out of there. Bashed the chaeto a bit to loosen any out of there, tried to stay away from the top of the sand for the sake of the nice critters.

2 maxijets were running in there the whole time.

So..... after adding back the 35-40 gal of fresh saltwater, the fuge is still yellow. Many dead (hopefully) flatworms still floating and on the sand.

New carbon running in my carbon tube run on a Mag 3.5 in teh sump.

Fuge water entering sump passing through a filter sock.

Dropped 2 eclipse cartridges into the fuge for good measure (so some carbon is right in there).

Question really is, what will all the dead flatworms in there do, if anything, to my system longterm (I assume any goop they released on death will be removed by the carbon, as will the flatworm exit chemicals -- right?) and what can I do about it???

This is my worry, all the dead flatworms left over in the fuge tank.....

 

[dancri]

Flatwoms

Flatwoms

What I understand is that after they die they become poison like for your system that's why you want to remove as many as you can. Hope this helps
Marco (dancri)

 

[ostrow]

Yah. Wondering what happens if there are still a lot I can't get out (buried in rocks, sand, chaeto, etc). Got tons out changing half the water in the fuge. 50 percent change there. Figure got lots of the goop they release out. Carbon also should help there.

But why was the water yellow? And is the shock over after the initial hour or so and is the carbon enough?

Or will the dead suckers wreak havoc over a a period of days?

Do I need to do a bunch more water changes or siphoning in the fuge over the next few days?

Or should I relax???

 

[dancri]

I also talked to Rod because I also have them and wil be doing the same as you this weekend the yellow water should improve with carbon and filters you have running. Maybe changing your carbon sooner then normal and again try to remove what you can see and reach, and you should be ok, good luck and let's see what others have to say.
dancri

 

[mhurley]

Carbon will take care of the released toxins....So change it a lot, turn the water over through the filter and it will be fine.

 

[mbunaman]

I say keep the fuge isolated for another week and continue the carbon. Then do a massive water change out of the fuge. You dont want to ruin your display tank so dont take any risks JMO.

 

[menard]

Joel, dont use reg. carbon. use CHEMI PURE it will polish all the toxin. PEACE

 

[ostrow]

Too late Menard! Using ESV carbon.

Got the fuge back online, with extra carbon resting in the fuge too. All fish seem fine, eating, etc. Will swap the carbon this weekend.

 

[fishface3]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7068268#post7068268 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by menard
Joel, dont use reg. carbon. use CHEMI PURE it will polish all the toxin. PEACE

Is Chemi Pure the same as carbon ? What's this Chemi Clean ? Sorry for the partial Hijack Ostrow just want to know if it's better then running carbon.

 

[menard]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7068583#post7068583 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishface3
Is Chemi Pure the same as carbon ? What's this Chemi Clean ? Sorry for the partial Hijack Ostrow just want to know if it's better then running carbon.

Not even close, way better than carbon alone. CHEMI PURE, consist of special carbon and DI resin. Polish that water in no time and it will last 3mo. on salt water and 6mo. on F/W. Good stuff, I been using it over a decade now. PEACE

 

[Zoalander]

I just started using chemi-pure 1 month ago and love it. It's also nice that I don't have to change the carbon every month.

 

[dochoot]

flat worms

flat worms

How did your wrom problem turn out? Can you tell me more about the wrasse and where you go it? I was also thinking of a Mandarin (I have lots of pods as well). Did the worms cause any problems other then looking bad? Mine are leaving the coral alone. Thanks.

 

[ostrow]

Well a lot died but a lot remain. That's for sure. But they are entirely in my fuge. I see some tiny ones on the bottom of the glass in the display, but I think the radiant wrasse is keeping them under control. Just in case I picked up a spotted mandarin from Deep Reef the other day. We'll see how it does.

Probably would have needed a second FE treatment but I decided the flatworms are detritivores so I'll give them a few months and see what happens. As long as they stay out of the display it's fine. Wish the chaeto would out-compete them but for whatever reason, it isn't.

I got the radiant wrasse to wipe out a monti nudi problem (which it did). I'm just assuming it's controlling the flatworms.

 

[dochoot]

Thanks. Keep me posted. I am trying to get a game plan together to deal with this. I wanted a mandarin anyway.

 

[jgleach]

Joel....please don't take this the wrong way, but....is there a malady that you HAVEN'T encountered?

If it weren't for bad luck, you wouldn't have any luck at all......

Jeff

 

[ostrow]

Ummm, well, uhhh. no kidding.

You should see what my Kole Tang looks like today. This is the one that twice got sucked into my Tunze 6060 intake. The second time, it's entire side was tattooed with the imprint of the intake slats. Still alive weeks later, one of which I was out of town and the wife was feeding the tank.

Well, yesterday, he must have gotten blown into the rocks or I don't know what. On one side (the other side) near the tail is maybe a half-inch by half-inch USA-shaped patch of exposed flesh (white, no scales left). Happened between 4:30 and 5pm of this I am positive.

Still alive this morning, still with exposed flesh. Not sure what if anything to do for it now.

Jeff, I'll keep you posted on futre maladies. I'm waiting for red bugs (Mike, can I have some frags?), or, well, I don't know, for one of the kids to climb a ladder, lift the hood, and drop in maybe a bucket of dirt from the backyard.

 

[jgleach]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7115419#post7115419 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ostrow
Ummm, well, uhhh. no kidding.

You should see what my Kole Tang looks like today. This is the one that twice got sucked into my Tunze 6060 intake. The second time, it's entire side was tattooed with the imprint of the intake slats. Still alive weeks later, one of which I was out of town and the wife was feeding the tank.

Well, yesterday, he must have gotten blown into the rocks or I don't know what. On one side (the other side) near the tail is maybe a half-inch by half-inch USA-shaped patch of exposed flesh (white, no scales left). Happened between 4:30 and 5pm of this I am positive.

Still alive this morning, still with exposed flesh. Not sure what if anything to do for it now.

I'm wondering if certain fish can be considered "clumsy"....."here's 25 Kole Tangs....keep an eye on that one over there....he swims into things"

 

[ostrow]

Yeah, and GUESS WHO got stuck with the stupid one!

 

[menard]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7115467#post7115467 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ostrow
Yeah, and GUESS WHO got stuck with the stupid one!

:lol: :lol: :lol: ......Man

 

[Pufferpunk]

If you can QT him, Melafix does wonders. We've gotten a few puffers stuck to intakes w/gaping holes in them at my pufferforum. Healed up w/Melafix & a scar.