Uronema help

[Naraku]

My red sea bannerfish has uronema help.

This is in quarantine with another red sea banner and ranfordi that's eating pellets.

I don't wanna loose them.

Its still eating but there are sores.

They went through 50 minutes of formalin dip before the quarantine. How can this be?

I dosed the quarantine with formalin.

What can I do to save them?

Tank transfers with dips?

 

[Mishri]

according to this thread Uronema requires multiple dips, and a long term bath (or prescription medication)

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2388437

 

[ThRoewer]

Formalin only kills parasites that are on the outside of the fish where the formalin can reach them. If the Uronema had already dug in or even reached the blood stream formalin can't do much.

Your best bet is likely Chloroquine Phosphate. A preliminary test has shown that it can kill Uronema at double the standard dose.
Since the outlook for Uronema infections is generally grim I would give it a try.

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[Dmorty217]

Formalin only kills parasites that are on the outside of the fish where the formalin can reach them. If the Uronema had already dug in or even reached the blood stream formalin can't do much.

Your best bet is likely Chloroquine Phosphate. A preliminary test has shown that it can kill Uronema at double the standard dose.
Since the outlook for Uronema infections is generally grim I would give it a try.

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+1 start out with the CP at 60mg/g and go up from there if the fish doesn't improve. I believe up to 80mg/g can be used on fish for Uronema

 

[microlady]

Be careful giving formalin baths to fish with open wounds. It is very toxic when it hits the bloodstream, not to mention painful. I'd go the CP route, or sacrifice the fish if it's too bad.

 

[Naraku]

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[Naraku]

Is ick shield NLS good?

 

[Naraku]

Now a rainfordi has patches.

I got it from my lfs and worked hard to get it eating pellets.

This sucks

 

[Naraku]

So it seems like my fish keeping has been jinxed.

either

1) don't eat

2) eat but riddled with disease

 

[Naraku]

None of my fish has ever survived a quarantine tank

 

[Naraku]

One of the bannerfish is dead

 

[ThRoewer]

NLS Ick-Shield should be fine and is the only one you can get right away without a prescription.

Any pictures of the sick fish?
Vibrio can cause very similar bloody patches, has an equally rapid progression, but would require a very different treatment (Tetracycline).

EDIT: Vibrio vulnificus can also infect humans - wear gloves when handling fish that could have this and bleach the tank and all equipment later.

 

[Naraku]

Whole tank died.

Probably from hypoxia and ammonia.

I didn't have enough salt to do a water change.

 

[Naraku]

It was 11pm when I got home from work

 

[ThRoewer]

In that case it likely wasn't Uronema, but rather ammonia burns.

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[Naraku]

Its a cycled tank. I thought ammonia because I dosed the whole tank with formalin. It was cloudy because one bannerfish died while I was at work.

I was feeding nls ick shield pellets soaked in kanamycin so it should have covered vibrio or uronema.


I think QM has issues. A few months ago, a bannerfish from LA had a bloody patch on arrival. it died shortly.

These bannerfish were secured by my lfs thru QM.


I thnk its a combo of disease and poor water.

 

[Naraku]

Upon further examination of dead fish, the holes are no longer red. Perhaps the uronema parasites left or the formalin killed them along with the fish

 

[ThRoewer]

Uronema isn't really a parasite and doesn't leave the dead body - dead bodies and tissue and the bacteria that feed of them is its primary food source.

The red comes from inflammation or blood and may therefore go away after death.