Vectra/Apex confirmation

For that kind of money on a return pump, I'd like to see feed mode implemented through my apex so I don't have to hit two buttons, and various other programming capabilities through apex. If all I can do to control is to shut off the power via APEX, and just use the Vectra as a constant mode pump, I might as well pay 1/3 the price for a eheim or sicce pump.

That's my reasoning anyway.

VarioS
 
So I have a Vectra L1, and an Apex. I'm not entirely sure what I would want to "control". The Vectra has a feed mode and/or I can plug it into an outlet on the Apex with a feed mode. What else do I need to do with a pump that should be running pretty much 24/7 except for feeding or maintenance??

Plug it in to the Apex power bar, set a feed mode on that outlet through the Apex, turn it on, turn it up...go on with life. What's the big deal about controllability? This isn't a wave pump, or a light...
 
When they added the ability to go to feed mode and only have a trickle come out was a good new feature.

That way I can set to feed and not have it blown around. Then when coming back on I dont have to worry about a bubble storm.
 
Vectra M1 Apex Feed mode integration

Vectra M1 Apex Feed mode integration

Here's an easy and inexpensive (~$25) way to get your Apex to trigger "feed mode" on the Vectra pump. It does involve use of a soldering iron but it's not as scary as it may sound. I had heard that the Vectra doesn't take kindly to a lot of power cycling so I wanted to avoid simply killing the power to it via the EB8 during the feed cycle.

At the beginning of my feed cycle I am using a 3 second pulse on the 0-10V output to simulate a button press on the "mode" button of the Vectra driver which triggers feed mode.

I am connecting the VarSpd1_I1 (0-10V) output to an opto-relay (~$14) with the output connected to the "mode" button on the Vectra driver. The relay module is in a small plastic project box (<$10). The output of the relay is normally in the "open" position, when the 10V signal is applied to the input the output switches to 0 ohms and since it is connected to the terminals on the Vectra "mode" button it closes the switch just as if you had pressed the button.

To connect to the "mode" button you simply remove the back cover of the Vectra driver module and tack two wires on the back side of the "mode" button (see photo).

I found in practice that in your programming on the Apex VarSpd1_I1 output you need to set the output on for 5 seconds to get a 3 second output.

Works great for me!
 

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Nice, Ray, thank you for sharing!

I think I will copy shamelessly and implement mine the same way so thanks also for sharing the link to the relay.

Another challenge I have is that I have 2 Vectra return pumps. I would love it if I could alternate between the two of them so that when one is at 50% power, the other was at 10% and vice versa to create some alternating current effects in my tank. If ETM would work with Apex, this would be trivial...but since they won't now I am trying to figure out how to accomplish the same effect.

I have not found any documentation showing a master/slave relationship between 2 Vectras though. Does anyone know if such a capability exists?
 
Something has struck me as odd ...

Vectra still not Apex controllable, and I guess at this point probably won't be. So I assume (yeah, I know ...) that we're done with any further ETM integration to Apex. Not so fast buckaroo .... the brandy new Gen4 radions are compatible, and that required new firmware for the WXM. So what's the deal? Yeah, I get that Neptune is not a lighting competitor, but COR is still vapor-pump, so ..... Does Vectra compatibility really mean less sold ... odd
 
Or....you can program the vectras outlet to turn off during feed mode while vectra is connected to battery back up allowing pump to run at a set reduced % so there's no bubbles with restart.
 
Or....you can program the vectras outlet to turn off during feed mode while vectra is connected to battery back up allowing pump to run at a set reduced % so there's no bubbles with restart.

That is how I had mine set up before I switched to Red Dragon Speedy Speedy pump. It worked great.
 
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