Very deformed yellow tang
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urbanrat84
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Good water quality and good food and time.
You never know how well an animal may recover. I've seen the most horrific injuries on animals and their ability to heal never fails to surprise me.
You never know how well an animal may recover. I've seen the most horrific injuries on animals and their ability to heal never fails to surprise me.
Moort82
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That's a classic profile of a fish that has had bad HLLE in the past. Keep an eye on the face as you mention holes, another sign of HLLE. These are probably just scars from the past, like the fins but its worth a little TLC.
This seems all to common with Yellow and Regal tangs. Maybe its their popularity or maybe because inexperienced hobbyists keep them and don't feed them properly.
This seems all to common with Yellow and Regal tangs. Maybe its their popularity or maybe because inexperienced hobbyists keep them and don't feed them properly.
yes, it's good. i use it along with selcon, alternating every couple of days.
a lot of people feed garlic because they think it cures/prevents ich which isn't true. you are correct, garlic can be an appetite stimulant but isn't meant for long-term use.
CStrickland
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This may be of interest http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2159738
if you choose to read it
if you choose to read it
sure have, qt with no meds only garlic and food no hypo or temp changes ich went away never came back
No .... correlation is not causation. No demonstrable benefits of using garlic versus not using garlic; sometimes ich does go away and not come back (there are different strains with different potency; and different fish have different tolerances). Just because you think garlic was the miracle cure does not make it so. It's a myth based on mistaken observations that will just not go away - a shame for folks new to the hobby that would benefit from better advice.
karimwassef
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I think what Simon is saying is that garlic seems to cure ich but there's no mechanism for actually doing that.
The best explanation I've heard is that garlic has no effect on ich, but it improves the health and natural immune response of the fish. The fish then cures itself of ich naturally.
It may be as simple as garlic inducing a stronger feeding response (that most fish lose when sick) and that eating more and better naturally helps it recover.
The best explanation I've heard is that garlic has no effect on ich, but it improves the health and natural immune response of the fish. The fish then cures itself of ich naturally.
It may be as simple as garlic inducing a stronger feeding response (that most fish lose when sick) and that eating more and better naturally helps it recover.
CStrickland
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In my book, Pirates cure global warming
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Seriously though, I think garlic is like chicken soup for fish. It makes them feel better and they get stronger. But you would have gotten over the cold eventually without it, or not; and it would be really stupid to like stop washing your hands ever because if you catch a cold you'll just eat some Campbell's.
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Seriously though, I think garlic is like chicken soup for fish. It makes them feel better and they get stronger. But you would have gotten over the cold eventually without it, or not; and it would be really stupid to like stop washing your hands ever because if you catch a cold you'll just eat some Campbell's.
Exactly! I don't think most folks even remotely understand the difference between 'correlation' and 'causation'. Just because two things may move together, does not mean that one causes the other. In order to demonstrate causation, one would have to setup a number of independent tanks, all with the same kind of fish with the same ich strain, and then see whether there was any statistical difference between tanks that received garlic and those that did not. Beyond that kind of scientific rigor, any conclusions are purely anecdotal.
FWIW, I also don't believe that garlic does anything for a fish's immune system. Humaguy had an excellent post on the subject a while back that is well worth a few minutes of one's life.
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
Right. Until science proved otherwise. Which is what we have here.
You say the earth is flat, science begs to differ.
You say the earth is flat, science begs to differ.
