Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

[Rizup]

When I put mine in half were floaters and others on the bottom.And I soaked them for 24 hours in RODI water before they were put in.And even then I had clumps of them with air bulbbles stuck to them floating all over the container.Another 24 hours all are sinkers now.

I soaked mine in RO/DI overnight too. Don't know if it helped or not. Certainly can't hurt.

 

[Reefflections]

Reefflections Thanks for the input.

No problem here at my end.
I'm just no sure at this time,what to expect next?Because I haven't had any time of outbreak,like others mentioned here.Also my skimmer hasn't give me signs others have had?Green to black liquid either?I really have the same skimmate I had before.I have a Deltec skimmer,and over flow go directly into the skimmer.Again maybe still tank running it's coarse also.I'm thinking some system just run different alsn how high levels are from 1 tank to another for seeing different results.But I don't have the filter bag issue either.But I feel at this time is a good thing.I'm just writing here,what's happening in my tank,when using Eco Bak.I haven't scene any stringing bacteria either yet.But only running a few days.Only time will tell.As we know in this hobby.It's always a waiting game.We never get over night results.:worried:

 

[theJiggyfly]

So I wanted to update. I have been running 6-7 weeks now and no GFO. My PO4 is lower that what I used to run. Just a slightest tint of blue which is <.02 with the right numbers. My PO4 was just a bit higher before running GFO. This will be my last update though since I am getting out of the hobby and the pellets are going to another tank. So far I say these work as advertised.

 

[johnnydoe]

i took the white mesh screen i made out of the bottom and left the top one in . works great now , thanks .

 

[poolkeeper1]

Bottom Mesh

Bottom Mesh

i took the white mesh screen i made out of the bottom and left the top one in . works great now , thanks .

If you took the Mesh out what's holding the pellets inside the container? Don't they just fall through the bottom holes in the cartridge they are in?
Just curious?
Bill:dance:

 

[johnnydoe]

i use a TLF reactor between the very bottom and the red plate with holes in ( comes with the TLF reactor ) it is only about maybe 1/2 inch , there might be i few pellets there cant really see . water travels from bottom then goes up and out so u will need the mesh on the top so they dont end up in ur sump .

 

[Buganddoug]

I would turn down your valve ever so slight. See if that helps. I would give it a week before trying to open the valve to much. The pellets need to seed and get the air out.

 

[marinelife]

Do you need a skimmer with this new filter media.

 

[poolkeeper1]

Absolutly

Absolutly

Do you need a skimmer with this new filter media.

The whole carbon dosing regimen is based on a very efficient skimmer, The bigger the better IMO. I would not try this without at least a decent skimmer as you may do more harm than good.
Bill:hammer::hammer::eek1:

 

[marinelife]

Thanks, 0 skimmer and not really alot of Algae so I will not look into this anymore.

 

[BeanMachine]

Cloudiness

Cloudiness

I finally put the ecobak in a reactor two days ago, but now my tank and sump is really cloudy. The first 24 hours nice and clear, but day two and now three and it looks like I just added Marine Snow. I did not rinse the media before adding. A local guy told me the extra cloudiness is from the high nitrates, which I do have.

My skimmer is going a bit nuts. Lots of stringy white stuff collecting at the bottom of the reactor. One thing I will change after reading the thread is I will point the output towards the skimmer intake.

I am getting tumbling on the left side of my reactor chamber, but not on the right side. What can I do do get everything to tumble?

I don't have another reactor to run carbon, but would passively adding a bag of carbon to the sump help with the cloudiness?

 

[Rizup]

Sounds like a bacterial bloom to me. Have you been adding any MB7 or other bacterial additives to the tank? When this happens it seems to either be a problem with too high of a flow rate or because of additional bacteria dosing.

Also, how big is your system and how much EcoBak are you using?

 

[BeanMachine]

Sounds like a bacterial bloom to me. Have you been adding any MB7 or other bacterial additives to the tank? When this happens it seems to either be a problem with too high of a flow rate or because of additional bacteria dosing.

Also, how big is your system and how much EcoBak are you using?

Well, the media is tumbling on the right side of the reactor, but the right side isn't really tumbling at all. When you say too much flow do you mean through the reactor? Should I restrict the flow a bit more?

The system is 17.5 gallons and I used approx. 20 g (about 10% of the 200g white jug I purchased. So maybe 4 to 5 inches of media dead center in the reactor.

I haven't added MB7 or carbon to the system. I did periodically use Marine Snow (which is why I compared the look of the tank to it) and I think I used it 2 or 3 days prior to setting up the ecobak.

*I guess I should add that the display is approx. 11 gallons and the sump is about 6.5. I have the Bubble Magus NAC3 rated from 25 to 80 gallons. The skimmate has definitely increased since I added the ecobak.

Thanks for the help.

 

[DJREEF]

"the media is tumbling on the right side of the reactor, but the right side isn't really tumbling at all."


HUH?

DJ

 

[reef_doug]

I finally put the ecobak in a reactor two days ago, but now my tank and sump is really cloudy. The first 24 hours nice and clear, but day two and now three and it looks like I just added Marine Snow. I did not rinse the media before adding. A local guy told me the extra cloudiness is from the high nitrates, which I do have.

My skimmer is going a bit nuts. Lots of stringy white stuff collecting at the bottom of the reactor. One thing I will change after reading the thread is I will point the output towards the skimmer intake.

I am getting tumbling on the left side of my reactor chamber, but not on the right side. What can I do do get everything to tumble?

I don't have another reactor to run carbon, but would passively adding a bag of carbon to the sump help with the cloudiness?

Many people experience the bacteria bloom, I did. It will clear up on it's own in a few days. Keep the skimmer going and add an airstone to the display if you have one. Good to use carbon, passively is better than none. I would change it in a week or two. Carbon won't really help with cloudiness that you're experiencing, this is from the bacteria and not yellowing compounds (gelbstoff).

For tumbling you may have too much flow or the reactor may not be perpendicular.

 

[BeanMachine]

"the media is tumbling on the right side of the reactor, but the right side isn't really tumbling at all."


HUH?

DJ

Sorry now I see how that is confusing. I meant the left side is tumbling and the right side is not.

I put one of those plastic sewing wheels on top of the black plate the reactor comes with... thought I saw that done on a thread. Maybe I should remove the sewing wheel and just stick with the stock plates and no sponge?

 

[BeanMachine]

Many people experience the bacteria bloom, I did. It will clear up on it's own in a few days. Keep the skimmer going and add an airstone to the display if you have one. Good to use carbon, passively is better than none. I would change it in a week or two. Carbon won't really help with cloudiness that you're experiencing, this is from the bacteria and not yellowing compounds (gelbstoff).

For tumbling you may have too much flow or the reactor may not be perpendicular.

Thanks Doug. The plan is to make the suggested adjustments this evening when I get home from work.

 

[reef_doug]

Sorry now I see how that is confusing. I meant the left side is tumbling and the right side is not.

I put one of those plastic sewing wheels on top of the black plate the reactor comes with... thought I saw that done on a thread. Maybe I should remove the sewing wheel and just stick with the stock plates and no sponge?

Did you zip tie the sewing wheel to the stock plates?

 

[BeanMachine]

Did you zip tie the sewing wheel to the stock plates?

Nope, and I did notice that the sewing wheel isn't 100% flush with the stock plate... Maybe that is my problem. I'll use zip ties. Thanks!

 

[Rizup]

Well, the media is tumbling on the right side of the reactor, but the right side isn't really tumbling at all. When you say too much flow do you mean through the reactor? Should I restrict the flow a bit more?

The system is 17.5 gallons and I used approx. 20 g (about 10% of the 200g white jug I purchased. So maybe 4 to 5 inches of media dead center in the reactor.

I haven't added MB7 or carbon to the system. I did periodically use Marine Snow (which is why I compared the look of the tank to it) and I think I used it 2 or 3 days prior to setting up the ecobak.

*I guess I should add that the display is approx. 11 gallons and the sump is about 6.5. I have the Bubble Magus NAC3 rated from 25 to 80 gallons. The skimmate has definitely increased since I added the ecobak.

Thanks for the help.

I am not familiar with the white jug or the media being sold by the gram. I purchased 1 liter and it came in a ziplock baggie. 500ml is rated for 100g, so I was thinking that with your volume it could have been too much for your system depending on how much you used. I would think it is possible to overdose on the pellets if you have way too much for your system. Just a thought.

As far as the flow - the EcoBak pellets don't need nearly the amount of flow that some of the other brands do. I found that I had a lot of pellets floating and I think that is because I had to much flow going through them. Right now I have them tumbling well and none floating, so we'll see how it goes. They have been running for two weeks today. So far it seems as though I have much less algae build-up on the glass and the water has seemed clearer for the past week or so. I'll test my nitrates again tonight, but so far I haven't seen them decrease at all. I did get my Hanna checker last Friday and I tested at .01 and .03. I never had detectable phosphates with my API kit, but the range is pretty bad on those kits so if it was detectable on the kit I would most likely already have a problem with algae.