Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product
- Thread starter Stuart60611
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Call Jon direct and talk to him about it (805) 584-5197 - he really is a nice guy. There's a WM website that is DOA. Emails sent through the site don't go anywhere.
DJ
drtrash
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I am on my 4th week of ecobak, P was low slight color on salifert but now it is clear, ran GFO for 2 months and could not reach zero, N is low at 10ppm. Had some cyano with GFO and very little is left. Algea on back glass is dying off in patches, so far no negatives only time will tell. Will check N later tonight.
poolkeeper1
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To order the EB online just send an E-mail to webshop@warnermarine.com and they will tell you how to pay for the order which is 40.00 shipped per 500ml
Bill
Bill
poolkeeper1
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I stand corrected, The E-mail should be to warnermarine.com Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Bill:wavehand:
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I stand corrected, The E-mail should be to warnermarine.com Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Bill:wavehand:
NaClH2Opgh
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I have been dosing vodka for over 2 years and no longer used gfo for the past 12-16 months. I had a 75 gallon that had been running for 5 years. I just took it down this past month and have everything set up in a temp rubbermade until I set my 220 up. I ma currently still dosing vodka/mb7 but will be giving the eco bak a shot in the temp system. I think the exact opposite is true if you dose and have been for some time there is a good chance you don't need GFO.
poolkeeper1
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Dosing/GFO
Dosing/GFO
Agreed, My last large tank i dosed for several years and never ran any GFO.
The only thing i did run was Rox carbon and only once in a while. Never had any issues other than the Cyano that appeared every now and then. Hopefully the pellet will in the long run work the same. I think it's a matter of getting the correct amount for your bio load and it should work fine.
Bill:idea:
Dosing/GFO
Agreed, My last large tank i dosed for several years and never ran any GFO.
The only thing i did run was Rox carbon and only once in a while. Never had any issues other than the Cyano that appeared every now and then. Hopefully the pellet will in the long run work the same. I think it's a matter of getting the correct amount for your bio load and it should work fine.
Bill:idea:
buy_baff
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I agree. I just don't think these are liveing up to other doseing options at least not so far that is.
poolkeeper1
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Time
Time
I just got finished adding another 250ml of EB to my system for a total of 750ml. I have a 59gal tank,40gal sump, 30gal frag tank, and a skimmer that holds another 5gals of water. The system is way overloaded with SPS and I think i just didn't have enough for my bio load in there before. I will give it another 6 weeks to fully colonize the new EB and see how everything looks at that time.
I have seen great results so far just have a little brown diatoms pop up on the sandbed once in a while, If that now goes away i consider this a winner.
Bill
Time
I just got finished adding another 250ml of EB to my system for a total of 750ml. I have a 59gal tank,40gal sump, 30gal frag tank, and a skimmer that holds another 5gals of water. The system is way overloaded with SPS and I think i just didn't have enough for my bio load in there before. I will give it another 6 weeks to fully colonize the new EB and see how everything looks at that time.
I have seen great results so far just have a little brown diatoms pop up on the sandbed once in a while, If that now goes away i consider this a winner.
Bill
poolkeeper1
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That's the key, That you need less or none at all, I hope. EB in the long run will be cheaper than GFO by a mile.:fun2:
Bill
...and much less of a PIA than dosing.
DJ
Stuart60611
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I agree that you need to find a balance for your given system both in terms of the amount of ecobak you are using and achieving the correct flow through the media. I was using 1 liter in my extremely heavily stocked 125 (140 gallon estimated total water volume with sump). I was using the liter in a large GEO 420 reactor (holds up to 2 liters). I was geting very uneven flow throughout the media. The liter seemed to keep things in check, but I did not notice any major algae die off. I added another 500 ml for a total of 1.5 liters and fully opened up my pump so that I am pushing 620 gph through 1.5 liters in my reactor. The flow now is very even and am geting a nice light boil. I am now geting some major algae die off. Moreover, I have not cleaned my glass in over 1 week where before with dosing insane amounts of vodka daily (60 ml) and biodigest weekly I had to clean my glass every few days. I have not tested my nitrate or phosphate either before or after adding ecobak b/c I think the exercise would be pointless in light of the algae giving me false readings, but my visual observation of the tank seems to suggest it is now working well. Certainly not scientific, but that is my perception.
...and much less of a PIA than dosing.
DJ
Maybe.
Vodka and vinegar are easy to dose(measure it out and pour it in) at feeding time and they are very pure forms of \organic carbon and utimately acetate with a long history to review for any adverse effects. No reactors ,etc.
I'm mildly concerned about the long term effects of polyesters in the system,since I'm not confident that the pellets are fully self contained. I hope they continue to prove out since they look like a great way to manage NO3 and some PO4.
DJ
Maybe.
Vodka and vinegar are easy to dose(measure it out and pour it in) at feeding time and they are very pure forms of \organic carbon and utimately acetate with a long history to review for any adverse effects. No reactors ,etc.
I'm mildly concerned about the long term effects of polyesters in the system,since I'm not confident that the pellets are fully self contained. I hope they continue to prove out since they look like a great way to manage NO3 and some PO4.
poolkeeper1
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Stronger flow
Stronger flow
I like you would rather use observation of my tank to judge results. I like the idea of speeding up the flow some what to get an even tumbling of the EB and will look around for a pump stronger than the Maxijet 1200 on my BRS duel reactor that I'm using now. I think a Quiet One 3000 may be a good choice to run a little more flow but not too much
Bill
Stronger flow
I like you would rather use observation of my tank to judge results. I like the idea of speeding up the flow some what to get an even tumbling of the EB and will look around for a pump stronger than the Maxijet 1200 on my BRS duel reactor that I'm using now. I think a Quiet One 3000 may be a good choice to run a little more flow but not too much
Bill
Stuart60611
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Bill:
The added flow is not what I believe caused the flow to even out. I tried fully opening up my pump to 620 GPH when only using a liter in my reactor and still had uneven flow. What evened out my flow appears to be the addition of more media so that that my reactor does not have so much unused space. I need the full 620 gph to fluidize 1.5 liters on my large wide diameter reactor, but I do not think the additional flow is what evened the flow.
poolkeeper1
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Hmmm
Hmmm
Understood, But my first chamber is almost full and the second one is half way, in my reactor the 1/2 full one fluidized real well but the full one does not.
It seem the older the pellets get the more sticky they seem and tend to channel somewhat, which they did not do in the beginning. The MJ is wide open and does not move it around very much at all. I figure it can't hurt and I'll be able to dial it back some if needed. It's all guessing at this point and like everything else in this hobby it's trail and error.
Bill:hammer:
Hmmm
Understood, But my first chamber is almost full and the second one is half way, in my reactor the 1/2 full one fluidized real well but the full one does not.
It seem the older the pellets get the more sticky they seem and tend to channel somewhat, which they did not do in the beginning. The MJ is wide open and does not move it around very much at all. I figure it can't hurt and I'll be able to dial it back some if needed. It's all guessing at this point and like everything else in this hobby it's trail and error.
Bill:hammer:
Rizup
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How much are you running right now? I have been running about 750ml or so on my 90g and haven't noticed a decrease in Nitrates yet. Pellets have been in the system for a little over 3 weeks now.
