boosted chemist
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Closer to amherst the better, i need to get some baffles cut and need some 1/4" thick plexi. I went to home depot but their plexi is crappy and thin.
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Where in buffalo is a good glass shop
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boosted chemist
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ill try twin city, i need 3 baffles, 11.5" x8" with rounded edges. do they also sell plexi?
mr.maroonsalty
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for 1/4"glass I laminate two pieces of window glass together, and soften the edge with sanding/filing; it may not save much, but for me its a lot more convenient. You may need an acrylic shop for plexi. Your sump is acrylic?
boosted chemist
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MY sump is glass, i want to use glass for the bubble trap before hte pump. where hte water enters i want to build a couple of chambers for filtration similar to this
~Boosted chemist, just thought this might be an idea.
When I was building my sump I had a similar idea in mind ,because I didnt want to buy a reactor.Knowing I'd have to add baffles for airbubbles.The idea was to get water to pass through the media,whitch I think it works pretty well.Theres four chambers that act as baffles,place for chemical media,mechanical and heater.So water is pushed through all the chambers width wise up & down ,then flows length wise through fuge to return pump.
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boosted chemist
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Sump building is very frustrating, im scared of screwing up, flooding ect ect. UGH lol
Sorry man,I didnt even realize what this thread was about. I happened to see your screen name under the topic and just clicked it.I Had to work all weekend and just drained.
I dont know about buffalo ,but here It might be worth a trip to acrylic shop,most have scrap bins.I was able to get all the pieces to build the sump pictured for pennies on the dollar that way.Cutting it yourself is fairly easy and much less complicated then some make it out to be ime. I cut some pieces with a vinyl siding/paneling blade a circular saw and a guide ,but it needs to be clamped down well.stuffs slick..Tablesaw is ideal ,80+ tooth crosscut blade works well.*Dont use a rip blade*.If your using acrylic with glass it doesn't have to be perfectly smooth cuts silicone will attach it with no problem.If you want or need to smooth out the cuts,you can attach a piece of sandpaper to aflat board ,double face tape it,spray adhesive or just staple the ends down and draw the acrylic across it.
I hope this helps a little.Getting the measurements ,back in a minute.
I dont know about buffalo ,but here It might be worth a trip to acrylic shop,most have scrap bins.I was able to get all the pieces to build the sump pictured for pennies on the dollar that way.Cutting it yourself is fairly easy and much less complicated then some make it out to be ime. I cut some pieces with a vinyl siding/paneling blade a circular saw and a guide ,but it needs to be clamped down well.stuffs slick..Tablesaw is ideal ,80+ tooth crosscut blade works well.*Dont use a rip blade*.If your using acrylic with glass it doesn't have to be perfectly smooth cuts silicone will attach it with no problem.If you want or need to smooth out the cuts,you can attach a piece of sandpaper to aflat board ,double face tape it,spray adhesive or just staple the ends down and draw the acrylic across it.
I hope this helps a little.Getting the measurements ,back in a minute.
I'm not sure if you were aware but thought its worth a quick note.Carbon & Gfo use is spec'd different.I couldn't figure a way to use both in their.If the granules of Gfo rub from to much water flow it pulverizes and releases alot of dust.The only way I can see it working in their is more passive keeping it tight in a meshbag.Its definately not the most effient way to use it though.I think its around 30 or so gals per hr is whats rec for Gfo.
For carbon the flow is alot higher and what I put inside the baffles.
For carbon the flow is alot higher and what I put inside the baffles.
I ordered the glass for my baffles from Advance Glass in Clarence. http://www.advanceglass.com/
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Measurements of sump. 24" x 12" x 16" (length,width, hieght ) volume 20 gals.
Baffles are 5 " wide, 2.5 inch gap for water flow and the last baffle seperating the fuge and return pump is 9 inches.
Im definately no expert at any of this stuff and it could be improved on,if you need any other info or even a phone call is no problem here.Just shoot me a pm.
Hope this helps.
Measurements of sump. 24" x 12" x 16" (length,width, hieght ) volume 20 gals.
Baffles are 5 " wide, 2.5 inch gap for water flow and the last baffle seperating the fuge and return pump is 9 inches.
Im definately no expert at any of this stuff and it could be improved on,if you need any other info or even a phone call is no problem here.Just shoot me a pm.
Hope this helps.
cardiffgiant
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I used these guys and was very happy. I was pressed for time, called them late in the day on a Friday and they fit me in before close.
boosted chemist
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Thanks man, good info. I may just make a corner box and run my display water through it, with carbon in it. Is it worth it to just toss some GFO in a bag in the sump? I also heard some people place the gfo in the filter (trap) for the return pump. Any opinions?
Kinda like the corner box in one of melev's sumps
boosted chemist
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How much do you guys cut down your baffles, i was going to do 8" and mount hte middle one 2" above the bottom of the tank, but more specifically worried about the side dimensions for the silicon clearance. MY 15 gal measures 11.75 on the inside, so obviously i cant get glass to be exacty, but, u think 1/8 a side so 11.5" would work?
Thanks man, good info. I may just make a corner box and run my display water through it, with carbon in it. Is it worth it to just toss some GFO in a bag in the sump? I also heard some people place the gfo in the filter (trap) for the return pump. Any opinions?
Kinda like the corner box in one of melev's sumps
Gfo in a bag will work but is said to not be as effective as a reactor.Ive used it in a meshbag and reactor both.I couldn't tell you though from an actual testing standpoint any differences.(I dont test PO4)From observing though things like algae on the glass and how long it takes to reside,some difference in that regard.Personaly I think in the reactor just works faster but both work.
I was taking the bag of gfo out weekly and gently rinsing it ,I believe it helps to reposition it around in the bag so water is able to contact areas that might be getting bypassed otherwise.
Your sump looks great! Pic explains alot.Did you try to determine if it will overflow with the baffles being so high doesn't look like its giving you much room to take back water?
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No no lol, thats not mine, i wish it was, its from melevs reef (good site on sumps). I ment use that corner chamber from the display through carbon into the sump. My baffles are going ot be 8" tall (12" tank so it should be fine). And i plan on placing mine MUCH closer to the pump so incase of a clog, less volume to pump up. Im going to just toss a gfo mesh bag in the sump, and during water changes just do what you suggest, its better than nothing and the cheato should absorb some of the po4, and currently i run chemipure elite and a carbon, so it cant hurt.
I think i did 1/16th per side, I thought that was a little loose when I was fitting the tank. The silicone filled the gap rather easily.
