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Wow, I leave the thread for a couple of hours and the thing just blows up. I'm glad things didn't get too ugly. I think this shows how much people have been holding back. It seems as though all most of us want is for the people at the stores to be completely up front. This is obviously a very expensive hobby and I think some of the stores should start to realize that when they try to comp. on their losses they really end up losing out in the end. Lets face it if one store or another misleads you and things go bad they lost a customer for life. I'm glad I posted this because there is alot of useful honest information. Thanx fellow reefers!
 
Had me some fun last night...

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6921190#post6921190 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dynamitedj
Wow, I leave the thread for a couple of hours and the thing just blows up. I'm glad things didn't get too ugly. I think this shows how much people have been holding back. It seems as though all most of us want is for the people at the stores to be completely up front. This is obviously a very expensive hobby and I think some of the stores should start to realize that when they try to comp. on their losses they really end up losing out in the end. Lets face it if one store or another misleads you and things go bad they lost a customer for life. I'm glad I posted this because there is alot of useful honest information. Thanx fellow reefers!

THis may be the funniest post of the year
 
I thought this was a board for opinions. I have sure seen countless ones in your favor Chad. Maybe we should stop those. In fact I think I even wrote a few.

If my joking in my original post was a little harsh, well that is just me. To be honest I didn't think I was being all that nasty, except with M.S. and I have my reasons for that one. Don't they have some cheerleaders somewhere. I am sure they have some good points but to many bad experiences in the past have clouded my view.

I don't think it is any secret on these boards that CPE is more expensive and sells Marc Weiss. Belts has specialized in Chiclids foreverer. Chad sells corals on ebay with catch phrases like super and ultra rare. How is what I said anything but the obvious.

Sorry that I don't have enough posts to be considered reef central expert. You see what kind of trouble I start when I have the day off and play on the computer.

For all those following this, we all know what they say about opinions. Please don't belive mine. In all seriousness go to all the stores and find the one that you like. Better yet buy a good book go to a SEASL meeting and get adviice from someone who isn't trying to sell you something.
 
Darksilenttype"Hey guys whats up with the guy with less than 60 posts talking trash about all the local stores". I don't want to give everyone the wrong idea. I am not ripping on all the stores. Lets be honest though. There are obviously some shady activities happening or I wouldn't have gotten such a response. As for how many post I have made,what difference does it make? I've been to some stores that don't show their prices or try to sell me something i don't need. Why do you think they do that? Maybe I am imagining all this because I don't have enough posts yet. On the other hand I have had alot of good experiences too. I havn't had a single coral die and all my fish are looking pretty happy. Ironically everything I have has been aquired from friendly honest people in Reef Central who have been more than willing to lend me a hand. This is precisely why I started this post.
 
Man sometimes these threads make me feel like we are all back in kindergarden. Ramstheory stole my crayon. Some people just need to grow up & move on. We all have our stores we like & dislike, so if you do not like a store or how they describe there stuff, just don't shop there.:beachbum:
 
there has been some smoke and mirrors lately guess I shouldn't have kept those 3D glasses :eek2:

Hey Kurt I just broke your crayon in half. :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6921434#post6921434 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ksteiny
I thought this was a board for opinions.

It is,but not for bashing !



. In fact I think I even wrote a few.

Yeah thats why it seems so rediculous that you feel the need to come on here and say otherwise !

Just stinks when someone says stuff, that you thought was someone you can trust and be friends with,but not the first time I have been wrong about someone !
Say what you want,your going to anyway !
 
I'm a newbie also but I have had nothing but good experiences at MS, Beldts, CPE. I agree with OCICAT's post and I find your comments to be uncalled for.

Arlo
 
I want a crayon too. Oooh and one of those 3D glasses man!

Nemos is closest to me. And the cheapest(cause my HEMI likes to drink.....alot)

CPE, Well Jan has been great to me even though I've never bought anything from her. Always answers every question to her best. Just to far of a drive.

MS has been very good to me. Salt is really cheap there. Just bought some last week and a bubble tip Anemone.

TWP was a little miss leading to me, But that was only once other times we great there.

GWA, I've been buying from Chad, He's always been HONEST with me and very fair. He wouldn't sell me a clam cause I didn't have MH lighting. He has always taken time to answer me, even my stupid questions( which is most of them).

Belt's. I've only been there once since new ownership, they had good frag prices and they looked good too. But I didn't get the chance to chat.

AT. Veclo has done the same as Chad for me. I like them alot too.

I've had both good & bad with a few stores, But I agree that it was just that one person I delt with. I'm an On-Line buyer that I've stated in the past. But I'm learning I'm still a new-bie and somethings I prefer to buy from the LSF. In all fairness, if it had not been for these LFS I would never have gotton into this hobby.
Nor would I know about RC and some really nice people :)
That's my two cents. I think Letmegrow might have said this once, But do your RESEARCH , and then form your own opinon. And this was a good way to do just that.
 
It seems to me that everyone on this forum is mainly in favor of gateway no matter how you look at it but thats just me? Maybe hes offering that new seasl discount like beldts or better yet just giving stuff away.I had to join the bashing wagon since all of you do it so well But this is not the reason for my post people tend to say good things about beldts but it seems all the frafs in there frag tank are turnign brown which is home to the new Brown tort.. I have heard beldts giving bad advise for example selling a green carpet anemone to an uncycled tank or setting up a new 24 nano with two pounds of rock doesnt sound right to me the only turn around I see is newly set up tanks and more heavily stocked fish tanks then before with the previous owners. If all you can do is bash marine solutions then maybe you should only go to gateway or to the other lfs Ksteiny. It seems kevin has alot to say about MS but I dont recall seeing him in there often except when he needs 10 buckets of salt. I dont see why we gave him a discount on salt when that is the only good thing he has to say Is MS has cheap salt. I have been to every store in St.louis besides gateway and right now Marine solutions has the best selection in my opinion we dont have to call it LE or rare to sell a coral if its rare it might just sell it self.. I work at MS and we are always busy but I will try to work on getting more prices on the tanks. Im not suggesting where to buy your merchandise from but since competition is ever growing in St. louis the bashing gets worse and worse everytime. Dont let theese threads decide where you will shop go to every store in town then decide for yourself. I have been on reefcentral for a longtime but this is my first real reason to post . To everyone out there stick up for the store you go to dont worry about that little seasle discount the prices are cheaper at MS anyways. and To KSTEINY MS has plenty more then cheap salt but as we can see that is all you buy from their so keep sucking up to clayton. We dont need a moderator here just PM me with all the bashing your going to do anyways.Did I miss anything let me know?Post to long chop it up. If you need good advice in MS my name is Harry just in case you dont already know me.
 
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