rogerwilco357
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would you sell your 5d2 and 7d for the new 5d3 ?
or would you keep your gear and buy new Radions?
or would you keep your gear and buy new Radions?
would you sell your 5d2 and 7d to get the new ONE
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Reading the specs the 5Diii looks really nice.
Would "I" jump from a 5Dii for it no.
Realistically the price jump from a new 5Diii to a used 1Dmkiv is not large.
If I wanted to consider selling a 5Dii and 7D for a new body, thats the jump to make.
But at the end of the day, imo not necessary. You have a great body in the 5Dii
Would "I" jump from a 5Dii for it no.
Realistically the price jump from a new 5Diii to a used 1Dmkiv is not large.
If I wanted to consider selling a 5Dii and 7D for a new body, thats the jump to make.
But at the end of the day, imo not necessary. You have a great body in the 5Dii
MarkoD
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if you ever tried tracking a moving subject with the 5d you'll wanna upgrade (mainly if you shoot a fast sport) other than that, its a great camera
I've shot air shows with it (and have sold images from the shoot) but that's not my primary subject. Just an example that asking someone else what camera you should buy is often a bad idea. Everyone has different needs.
Cheers
MarkoD
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i shoot nhl hockey and i find the 5d mark ii has trouble keeping up with the subjects sometimes. 1d mark iii, no problem. im hoping the 5d mark iii has improved focusing accuracy too
MarkoD
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obviously i didnt buy it for that purpose. i have a 1d for that purpose. but i would also expect a 3000 dollar camera to have quick and accurate focus regardless of its intent.
others have no problem shooting hockey with a d700, which is the nikon equal of the 5d mkii
MarkoD
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if i paid a hundred grand for a fiat 500 i would expect it to come close to being a 10 second car and not just have fancy leather inside
Thing is, with Nikon, the lens is more in control of the focusing speed than the camera. While some of the older AF lenses focused faster or slower than others on different cameras, this was because the focusing motor was in the body, the AF-S lenses are all very quick. Even the ones in the cheeper consumer line.
I can want blue to be red, too but it's not. If you bought a 5D after looking at its specs and thought it was a sports camera, that's not Canon's fault.
It will actually perform pretty well if you understand how the focus system really works, but it wasn't ever designed for that type of use. It was always marketed toward the landscape/portrait market; a place it absolutely excels at.
Cheers
We're talking about the focus acquisition/tracking system, not the actual speed of the lens getting there.
Nikon's focusing System.
Nikon's problem in the past was the lenses. While the tracking system could keep up with the movement, the AF-D lenses had a harder time. Them came the AF-S, which put the motor in the lens. This took the old screw drive in the body out of the equation. Canon never had that problem.
Nikon's problem in the past was the lenses. While the tracking system could keep up with the movement, the AF-D lenses had a harder time. Them came the AF-S, which put the motor in the lens. This took the old screw drive in the body out of the equation. Canon never had that problem.
Its somewhat relative.
Lens (combined with the bodies chips/algorithms) will have a noticeable affect on initial acquisition speed.
Speed of subject/Size of subject.
A 5D might get you by shooting hockey, but other subjects that are faster/smaller?
"Confusion".
Cant speak for a 5D as I've never owned any iteration but in any fast action sport or otherwise there are always going to be times/occasions when your AF will/might jump to something other than want you want....A player crossing in front of your target, branches, other elements between you and your subject etc.
The biggest reason...at least for me and why Id never use a 5D (ii or III) for sports/action.
FPS.
Even the 5Diii still only has 6fps and for fast action, especially if there $ involved (print sales, licensing rights, etc) thats way too slow.Things moving really fast that fraction of the sec one can be the difference between that magical look in a players face.
His/Her arm coming up and crossing in front of the face
Head turned ever so slightly away.Instead of a sale, you hitting delete
Eye closes or blinks...delete
Ball in the hands instead of just kissing the outstretched fingers..
And getting the cover shot, or shot people pay for
With a 1d4 for example you rip off 2 to 5 frames, each only 1/10th of a second in between and you don't miss the puck just before it enters the glove and is lost to sight, or is still 3 or 6 feet from the glove. Or the ball as it makes contact with the bat, or is coming off the club.
Lens (combined with the bodies chips/algorithms) will have a noticeable affect on initial acquisition speed.
Speed of subject/Size of subject.
A 5D might get you by shooting hockey, but other subjects that are faster/smaller?
"Confusion".
Cant speak for a 5D as I've never owned any iteration but in any fast action sport or otherwise there are always going to be times/occasions when your AF will/might jump to something other than want you want....A player crossing in front of your target, branches, other elements between you and your subject etc.
The biggest reason...at least for me and why Id never use a 5D (ii or III) for sports/action.
FPS.
Even the 5Diii still only has 6fps and for fast action, especially if there $ involved (print sales, licensing rights, etc) thats way too slow.Things moving really fast that fraction of the sec one can be the difference between that magical look in a players face.
His/Her arm coming up and crossing in front of the face
Head turned ever so slightly away.Instead of a sale, you hitting delete
Eye closes or blinks...delete
Ball in the hands instead of just kissing the outstretched fingers..
And getting the cover shot, or shot people pay for
With a 1d4 for example you rip off 2 to 5 frames, each only 1/10th of a second in between and you don't miss the puck just before it enters the glove and is lost to sight, or is still 3 or 6 feet from the glove. Or the ball as it makes contact with the bat, or is coming off the club.
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