Yes!!!!!!!!! SPS Success with Leds! Come in and Share your Story!

tdb320reef said:
That is a sweet tank. I love the rock work and the shape of the tank. Very unique and well done. Look forward to seeing the growth.
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Thank you, it will take some time to get a grown out tank. But the last post at the moment shows some pretty decent growth. Nothing to fancy but i'm happy with any growth, as long as the colours stay :).
 
dymazty said:
I do not have thread parker .... like with your aquarium very nice . I use a 350 DIY LED aquarium and Natural system age 5 months
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Should make one. Definitely would subscribe to that.

Your system looks very well for 5mo keep up the great work man.
 
Dukester, Now that is what a red planet should look like, with the right amount of lighting. Awesome! Red planets are very sensitive to the amount of light it receives, at least mine are. Too much and it is pink, but if you find the sweet spot it looks like yours. congrats.
 
Awesome

Awesome

Awesome reefs all. I made some changes to my light layout. I moved my 4 Apollo G2 to the back and standardized on 8 EverGrow 120watt value fixtures in the front running long ways. the tank is 96X30 26" deep and the lights are about 8" off of the water. I got rid of the stunner strips and I also removed the glass lids after the video. I am getting 600 Par at the sandbed with these badboys up 100% LOL.

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Tron_954 said:
Loving my radion...
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Pefect example of a LED lit tank. Leggy growth. Not fully saturated colors. Mosty millis, stags, montis and LPS. No deep blue acropora, no ice fire echinata, no solid purples, no acans grown from frag to colony. LEDs work but have limits and if you are a new reefer reading this thread you need to be reminded of the overwhelming zeal that LED users seem to have. LEDs work but have limitations.

dymazty said:
my sps under LED 96 G include sump

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very color full
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Most of your corals are newly purchased as evidenced by their cement bases. Show us your tank in 2 years.




Take a look at this video. I don't agree totally, but the point is another major reefer who thinks LEDs are not perfected . . .


AA and Mike on LEDs
 
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JPMagyar said:
Pefect example of a LED lit tank. Leggy growth. Not fully saturated colors. Mosty millis, stags, montis and LPS. No deep blue acropora, no ice fire echinata, no solid purples, no acans grown from frag to colony. LEDs work but have limits and if you are a new reefer reading this thread you need to be reminded of the overwhelming zeal that LED users seem to have. LEDs work but have limitations.



Most of your corals are newly purchased as evidenced by their cement bases. Show us your tank in 2 years.




Take a look at this video. I don't agree totally, but the point is another major reefer who thinks LEDs are not perfected . . .


AA and Mike on LEDs
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Fast forward to 29.12 and listen to the expert in lighting whom is by the way running Radions. Mike is all over the place and point in case not being able to keep euphillia under led is surprising. I have my entire tank lined in euphillia and never had issues other than slight bleaching. I agree with SanJay, that it is not the lighting and that he needs to move to full spectrum but ultimately something else is going on. I am very surprised he is running an experiment with yesterdays technology(non-full spectrum). Both points here dismissed and IMO prove nothing! One glowing point is that SanJay whom is the expert in lighting is also having SPS success under LEDS!

BTW whom said LEDS or anything is the hobby were perfect?

BTW he just turned his skimmer on. Remember he is a proponent of not skimming and using/(cough sponsoring) Miracle Mud. Perhaps the Mold remediation spray and the Miracle Mud had a negative chemical reaction... LOL
 
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JPMagyar said:
you need to be reminded of the overwhelming zeal that LED users seem to have.


Is that really an objective unbiased statement? Aren't we here to discuss what may or may not work .....not make blanket statements that depicts all LED users as some kind of evil doers....I am an LED user and I have no agenda other than trying to grow corals and keep them happy.
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I have an AI SOL super blue unit.
And I wanna say I am "happy" with it to an extent. I'm an sps hoarder and I feel fluorescent lighting is a lot better then light emitting diodes. LPS and most sps color up fine but there is certain ones that don't.

I also wanna say Mike Paletta is not someone to follow. He's good but he also has a large tank and watching his videos I wouldn't say that LEDs are the only thing causing the problems in that tank.

Pinks and reds are really the only colors that I even have a problem with, and the fact they don't look as healthy with time. When I transfer a coral from a LED tank to a T5 or MH tank it looks not so good kinda "washed" out. When I do the vice versa it looks incredible.

Now saying all that I'm going back to MH/LED combo and my SOL being the main light wwhile I have the halide on for maybe 3-5hrs a day. I really feel this will help the problems that "I" am having with LEDs.

Now also for every other coral almost I feel LEDs do exceptionally well. There are nice sps dominant LED tanks (very few) could this be because they are new? Another argument is if they are so good why are ppl going back to traditional lighting? I think LedS still have some time til they are considered the best option for lighting. Also other cases vary. I don't mind paying a higher electric bill monthly to hae more growth and stunning corals. Some do.

Whether your situation may be everything works, it just depends on how you want your tank and what you wanna keep.
 
Red corals under the typical Blue/White LED setups tend to turn orange-ish. I've experienced this with Acan lords and Blastomussa and it happened within just a few days. Other than this issue, I'm very happy with all the other corals' colors and growth under full LEDs.

I'm in the process of augmenting my current LED setup with some additional LEDs to fill in some of the wavelengths not well represented by my current array. I plan to stay full LED for the usual reasons (heat, cost, etc.) and I aim to find the right wavelengths and intensity to bring the reds back again. I find the research/experimentation part of the hobby fun, but I understand that most want a plug and play solution.
 
Red corals under the typical Blue/White LED setups tend to turn orange-ish. I've experienced this with Acan lords and Blastomussa and it happened within just a few days.
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The coral colors we see are based on pigments generated by the coral to reflect wavelengths. Afterall, any color you see of anything in life is a reflection of that wavelength. Early LED products were built with cool whites and blue led's. The absence of full spectrum wavelengths would certainly skew pigments and colors.

Pefect example of a LED lit tank. Leggy growth. Not fully saturated colors. Mosty millis, stags, montis and LPS. No deep blue acropora, no ice fire echinata, no solid purples, no acans grown from frag to colony. LEDs work but have limits and if you are a new reefer reading this thread you need to be reminded of the overwhelming zeal that LED users seem to have. LEDs work but have limitations.
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LED's DO have limits. But it's a new technology and rapidly evolving. As I said above, spectrum range was an issue. Newer LED products addressed it. In my experience, the next issue is the unidirectional nature of LED's. They are essentially a bunch of tiny point-source lights. There isn't a lot of refraction at play. This causes a lot of hard shadows, which is a serious problem with branching corals. Plating corals don't see to mind. ;) This was also an issue with Metal Halides till we started using smarter reflectors. I actually switched back to metal halides for a while until I started looking at ways to solve it with LED's. Santoki's thread led to some clues, as did some conclusions of my own. I'm starting to figure this LED thing out. That said, LED's grow corals just fine. You just have to be a little smarter with them.

As for solid purples, that doesn't happen with 10k metal halides or T5's easily either. As for the other corals mentioned...

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The ice fire echinata was grown out from a single polyp. Yup, a single polyp! We're talking about starting with millimeters. I have to keep an eye on that fast growing pink millipora and make sure he doesn't overshadow the ice fire. Bad placement is my fault.

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My tank is no TOTM material. It's been lit with halides, t5's, and LED. It's been through a major move, and quite a few set backs. The last one was a house reflooring disaster. Long story. But I'm happy with the way things are going, and I'm happy with the colors. FWIW, I don't really like Radium tanks in person, so my idea of a good looking tank and coral color is biased to my own preferences.
 
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