ZeoVit system?

[icliao]

I am thinking about investing on Zeolith system, see if it improve my SPS color.

Does it really that good?

I am having DSB refugium, will that affect the result?

My NO3 and PO4 are both already extremely low but with the help of Sulfur reactor and Phoban, will I get any result adding Zeolith onto my system?

Where to put carbon in ZeoVit system?
In a separate chamber?
Inside the Zeolith reactor?

 

[ReefRockerLive]

Does it really that good?

You can be the judge

http://www.captiveoceans.com/gallery.html


link removed...sorry, we don't allow links to other message boards

 

[Horace]

I currently run the Zeovit system and while I think it is great, if you have low nutrients already, you will not see a dramatic change in color. However, using zeovit will keep your tank nutrient deficient for the long haul and will help prevent "nutrient pools" from ever forming. HTH

 

[PUGroyale]

Here's some other good reading... Pay particular attention to Bornemans' conclusion... make an informed decision

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-07/eb/index.php

 

[chadfarmer]

i have been running it for a week

i have noticed the corals that i have had for a long time with little to no color have started to show color in just a week


there is a lot of people that use it and a lot of people that dont believe in it, so i gave it a try, so far so good and to dose and shake the stones takes less than 5 mins


more than one way to skin a cat

 

[Confooseld]

My corals have never looked better.:lol:

 

[PUGroyale]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7686694#post7686694 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Confooseld
My corals have never looked better.:lol:

right out of the article :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[DitchPlains2]

got to love snake oil, where's Mark Weiss when you truly need him!

got to love snake oil, where's Mark Weiss when you truly need him!

"nutrient pools"

Hmm I thought water changes does the job of handling pools or nutrients lol...:lol: :lol: :lol:


I will stick to running ozone, it's my only vice. I tried vodka, I feel better using it for French Martinis, plus I'm not getting my tank drunk to make me look better to the fishes, I have a gf. lol

cheers
david:lol:

 

[chadfarmer]

why be so narrow minded and make posts like that

if you never used it,why would you even post

i thought just like you and figured i would try it

 

[Horace]

These posts always get out of hand...there are those who use Zeovit, trust in it, and see its results, and there are those who are skeptical and dont believe in it, or more commonly just dont think its necessary. Personally I dont think its for everyone, however, it DOES work and it DOES work well if done correctly.

Oh and nutrient pools are not simply gotten rid of by doing water changes....if you have a sand bed that is full of nutrients, doint water changes isnt going to do a damn thing to help your problem. Zeovit., over time will help get rid of built up nutrients in your rock and sand bed (if you even have one). Oh and Zeovit has nothing to do with vodka.....though both zeovit and vodka increase "good bacteria", vodka does not use zeolite filters which is a MAJOR part of the zeovit system. Vodka only reduces nutrients by an increase in bacteria, while zeolite filters absorb the ammonia out of the water column before it ever has a chance to turn to nitrates/nitrites.......a very different way of doing things.

 

[icliao]

I am willing to take my chance and try.
But would my DSB be an issue?
Should I remove my Sulfur reactor and RowaPhos?

 

[FishPharm]

DSB won't be an issue. You'll need to remove the rowaphos and other reactor.

I was a bit sceptical myself. Tried it and it really has helped me achieve a nutrient poor setup. Though there are many ways to achieve this. Zeo did work for me, so far!

 

[FishPharm]

Stability is key. With a nutrient poor setup through zeo approach, sps have a hard time dealing with fluctuations and are less forgiving because of the delicate balance your trying to maintain. ie alk has to stay between 6.5 dkH and 7.5 dkH, if alk goes up to quickly you may experience rtn'ing.......You just need to be really careful and test water parameters a bit more frequently such as phosphate, mg, ca and alk, to stay on top of it imo.

 

[PUGroyale]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7687925#post7687925 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Horace
zeolite filters absorb the ammonia out of the water column before it ever has a chance to turn to nitrates/nitrites.......a very different way of doing things.

I beg to differ... Zeolite has shown virtually no capability for absorbing NH3 from saltwater... freshwater is a different story. The rocks do provide a good spot for bacteria to proliferate, taking up N and P in the process, before being shaken loose to be skimmed out. It's also thought that due to the concentrations of iron and alluminum in zeolites they may act in the same way that typical PO4 binders do.

 

[icliao]

I beg to differ... Zeolite has shown virtually no capability for absorbing NH3 from saltwater... freshwater is a different story. The rocks do provide a good spot for bacteria to proliferate, taking up N and P in the process, before being shaken loose to be skimmed out. It's also thought that due to the concentrations of iron and alluminum in zeolites they may act in the same way that typical PO4 binders do.

I am currently using a Sulfur reactor + RowaPhos to acheive undetectable NO3 and PO4. I suppose the logic behind using Zeolite is same, to acheive undetectable NO3 and PO4.

It will be interesting to see if ZeoVit system provide better result under the same condition (close to zero NO3 and PO4.)

In any case, it will be a good experience to find out by first hand experience.

 

[Horace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7688797#post7688797 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PUGroyale
I beg to differ... Zeolite has shown virtually no capability for absorbing NH3 from saltwater... freshwater is a different story. The rocks do provide a good spot for bacteria to proliferate, taking up N and P in the process, before being shaken loose to be skimmed out. It's also thought that due to the concentrations of iron and alluminum in zeolites they may act in the same way that typical PO4 binders do.

I am no scientist, but from the articles I have read concerning zeolites as filters for seawater, everything I have stated is accurate. Feel free to read it for yourself. I would like to see where your expert opinion was derived....

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/cav1i3/zeovit/Zeolite_Filters/Zeolite_Filters.htm

 

[Horace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7688856#post7688856 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by icliao
I am currently using a Sulfur reactor + RowaPhos to acheive undetectable NO3 and PO4. I suppose the logic behind using Zeolite is same, to acheive undetectable NO3 and PO4.

It will be interesting to see if ZeoVit system provide better result under the same condition (close to zero NO3 and PO4.)

In any case, it will be a good experience to find out by first hand experience.

Like I said, if you have undectable levels of both NO3 and PO4, you likely will not see a great difference in your tank....atleast not as much as somone who has a nutrient rich tank.

I would advise you to read throughly the Zeovit guide found on the captive oceans site. There is LOTS of good information found within.

 

[F35-Joint Strike Fighter]

Here is my tank running Zeovit basic 4 only after 1 month.

Brand new tank, rock cooked.

and after one month, can't be better than this without Zeovit.

 

[icliao]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7688871#post7688871 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Horace
Like I said, if you have undectable levels of both NO3 and PO4, you likely will not see a great difference in your tank....atleast not as much as somone who has a nutrient rich tank.

I would advise you to read throughly the Zeovit guide found on the captive oceans site. There is LOTS of good information found within.

I have read through the instruction and begin to wonder maybe it was the addictives that will make the most difference in my tank. The 1st stage of the process involving on lowering the nutrient level, which I have acheived, then the 2nd phase consist of using addictives.

I wonder if I simpling buy ZeoBak, ZeoFood, ZeoStar and added to my current system and will get some color improvement?

 

[F35-Joint Strike Fighter]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7688900#post7688900 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by icliao
I have read through the instruction and begin to wonder maybe it was the addictives that will make the most difference in my tank. The 1st stage of the process involving on lowering the nutrient level, which I have acheived, then the 2nd phase consist of using addictives.

I wonder if I simpling buy ZeoBak, ZeoFood, ZeoStar and added to my current system and will get some color improvement?

my friend uses only AACH and CV, his corals pop up more color. He doesn't use Zeovit because his tank already got low nutrient.