ZeoVit system?
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MiddletonMark
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Wouldn't many foods also contain all these same aminos?
invincible569
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Thats right.
Discipline and dedication to go along with it.
Frankysreef
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drop your alk to 8 and watch your colors explode.... Try to create a natural zooplankton source, rather than relying on chemicals and additives....I've always preferred a natural approach to everything... Brighter lights 400 watt will also bring out better colors...
I've seen zeo systems.. and compared my colors to them.. and truthfully... not that much difference... I created a natural sunlight system that is supplemented with 250 w 20k helios to bring out the colors... But I dont add anything to my system other than what gets dissolved in my reactor...
Work on getting simple solutions solved first, like stable alk and calc.... alk over 8 will dimm your colors, this happend in many of my friends systems... and is a zeo thing too...
A natural supply of zooplankton, I have a 30 gal fuge that outlets right before my return pump...
The great thing about going natural is that it is self sustaining when you get it right.
Good luck
I've seen zeo systems.. and compared my colors to them.. and truthfully... not that much difference... I created a natural sunlight system that is supplemented with 250 w 20k helios to bring out the colors... But I dont add anything to my system other than what gets dissolved in my reactor...
Work on getting simple solutions solved first, like stable alk and calc.... alk over 8 will dimm your colors, this happend in many of my friends systems... and is a zeo thing too...
A natural supply of zooplankton, I have a 30 gal fuge that outlets right before my return pump...
The great thing about going natural is that it is self sustaining when you get it right.
Good luck
Frankysreef
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btw my avatar was taken under 175mh, and was my first reef tank, that coral is now a bright blue.
Serioussnaps
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i agree with Franky
Serioussnaps
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Another thing....i am not knocking zeovit because i havent used it and only know some generalities about the system however-------------if you see all these people with beautiful reefs and use zeovit you will also see that they do everything else right as well....i think the husbandry besides the zeovit is what really makes there tanks so beautiful and "nutrient free" albeit this is technically impossible IMO....(i believe the nutrients are present they just get used up..but will always be present) unless you have no fish and dont feed anything to the tank
Frankysreef
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Another thing to mention... There is no QUICK fix in this hobby, we are trying to replicate what happens in nature.... A stable system takes TIME to grow, all of the organisms that should be present in a reef have to grow and develop. Also too many predators should not be added in the before the organisms can develop... and soo on and soo on
Study the predator and prey problems of ecosystems to get an idea.
The great thing is once it is setup this way, you never have to dose anything.. I only run a calcium reactor, and change water, clean skimmers and change carbon and filter socks...
That is it, and I am rewarded with a beautiful tank.
I have a shallow sandbed, that is 6-7 yrs old... I reused it from my old 135 when I set up the new one... 150 lbs of my rock was FRESH rock, I drove up to LAX to get it off the plane, the amount of life diversity was amazing... Of course I had a little hairy crab problem for a while..
But you know I read and reread these posts about vodka, bare bottom, cooking rock, adding sugar and so on. Somtimes they just entertain me as to why?
My tank just keeps growing and growing, breeding and breeding, I could have some brighter colors if I switched to 400 watts mh, but I am too cheap to pay the electric bill.
There is no magic, u just have to spend the time..
Study the predator and prey problems of ecosystems to get an idea.
The great thing is once it is setup this way, you never have to dose anything.. I only run a calcium reactor, and change water, clean skimmers and change carbon and filter socks...
That is it, and I am rewarded with a beautiful tank.
I have a shallow sandbed, that is 6-7 yrs old... I reused it from my old 135 when I set up the new one... 150 lbs of my rock was FRESH rock, I drove up to LAX to get it off the plane, the amount of life diversity was amazing... Of course I had a little hairy crab problem for a while..
But you know I read and reread these posts about vodka, bare bottom, cooking rock, adding sugar and so on. Somtimes they just entertain me as to why?
My tank just keeps growing and growing, breeding and breeding, I could have some brighter colors if I switched to 400 watts mh, but I am too cheap to pay the electric bill.
There is no magic, u just have to spend the time..
Horace
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I think you are going to find that your corals will be VERY pale in color. You will also not get the growth that those who feed thier tanks get. Right now I am experiencing this same problem and I DO feed my tank and DO have fish. Just not enough apparently. I certainly dont have a TON of light, but it seems I simply dont have enough "food" available to keep the zoox dense enough to keep my corals rich in color. Most folks that run tons of light w/ zero nutrients find that once they start feeding thier fish more and adding more fish that colors start to look better. So just a warning...keep an eye out for this
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7934620#post7934620 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Horace
I think you are going to find that your corals will be VERY pale in color. You will also not get the growth that those who feed thier tanks get. Right now I am experiencing this same problem and I DO feed my tank and DO have fish. Just not enough apparently. I certainly dont have a TON of light, but it seems I simply dont have enough "food" available to keep the zoox dense enough to keep my corals rich in color. Most folks that run tons of light w/ zero nutrients find that once they start feeding thier fish more and adding more fish that colors start to look better. So just a warning...keep an eye out for this
Thank for your advice.
Adding fish will always be pleasant and simple.
And I would have the luxury to feed various coral food if I have no heavy bio load from the fish. I think this will be a good experience to take. I went through lot of trouble to get rid of the sand bed, fish and re-aquascape the tank.
SERVO
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Another thing....i am not knocking zeovit because i havent used it and only know some generalities about the system however-------------if you see all these people with beautiful reefs and use zeovit you will also see that they do everything else right as well....i think the husbandry besides the zeovit is what really makes there tanks so beautiful and "nutrient free" albeit this is technically impossible IMO....(i believe the nutrients are present they just get used up..but will always be present) unless you have no fish and dont feed anything to the tank
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I agree. I think that another aspect of the lack of acceptance is the marketing enigma. I would also protect my income and not let out the secret ingredient. I would hate to have people buy acetate for pennies opposed to my $$$$ 5ml bottle.
I do not run Zeovit. I can not afford it on a 400 gallon system. If I could, I may try it, but I don't put anything into my tank that I don't know what it is. I have seen MANY zeo tanks, and they are incredible!
If you don't have anything against putting substances into your tank that you don't know what they are; go for it.
reefplayer
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In contrast, i also seen many lost their sps due to Zeovit.
PUGroyale
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^^^ What kills me about Zeoheads [in general 
] is they love to heap praise on Zeovit for successes but the failures are never Zeo related :lol2:
I've followed Zeovit for a long, long, long, too long time and while I've seen some great Zeo tanks I've seen 50 times as many great non Zeo tanks. And until we see the nuts and bolts of the system I'm afraid that this is all it will ever be to me... Zeovit, a
] is they love to heap praise on Zeovit for successes but the failures are never Zeo related :lol2: I've followed Zeovit for a long, long, long, too long time and while I've seen some great Zeo tanks I've seen 50 times as many great non Zeo tanks. And until we see the nuts and bolts of the system I'm afraid that this is all it will ever be to me... Zeovit, a
Horace
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7941481#post7941481 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PUGroyale
^^^ What kills me about Zeoheads [in general
I've followed Zeovit for a long, long, long, too long time and while I've seen some great Zeo tanks I've seen 50 times as many great non Zeo tanks. And until we see the nuts and bolts of the system I'm afraid that this is all it will ever be to me... Zeovit, a
What kills me about people like you is you keep saying the same crap over and over....about how you dont know what zeovit does. There is plenty of information out there that tells you how Zeovit works and why it works. Just because they dont tell you the exact ingredients does not mean you know zero about what it is doing.
The fact is people buy products all the time not knowing the EXACT ingredients because they have faith that the product does what it says. For example, how often do you just take a medication from the doctor and put it in your OWN BODY because your told that it will have some postive effect. For some reason I doubt you request to talk to the chemist who made the drug and need to know exactly what is in there. All you do is read the label on how to use it. If you dont use it accordingly it can cause problems...which is the same with anything. So get over it already!
I never said that Zeovit cant cause tank crashes....I am CERTAIN that it can and it does when not used properly.
I know one thing for sure and that is there are more than one major coral farm here in the US that use Zeovit because they know it works.
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