Thanks... I think it's just the acclimation period..
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Thanks... I think it's just the acclimation period..
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sde1500
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Congrats to Joe and Noel, cb G lamarck!
Very cool. Though being less connected than you are haha, who's Joe and Noel? They have a website?
humaguy
Premium Member
Sorry, here ya go.
Joe Yiallo and Noel Heinsohn of the LI Aquarium.
Here is Noel's article.
There’s a New Captive Bred Genicanthus in Town!
With all of my responsibilities at the Long Island Aquarium, I find my schedule lately lacking free time for aquaculture projects. However, I try my best to squeeze some “play” time into my routine. I set up some larval tanks, collect some eggs from our 20,000 gallon reef tank, and wait to see what surprise is in store. The last few times that I have done this it resulted in anthias. Of course that was very exciting but this time around I was hoping for something different. (Don’t get me wrong, I am also still trying to raise more anthias as well. One day I hope to perfect the process.) Lucky for me, this time the reef tank’s vast diversity has given me an angelfish! After raising marine ornamental species for 6 years, I can finally cross angelfish off my to-do list. Not only is it my first angelfish, but it is also a species first! With this article it is my greatest pleasure to introduce to you: the first ever captive-bred Genicanthus lamarcks!
I have been sitting on this for a couple of weeks but I wanted to wait until I could capture some quality photos. The tank that she was in prevented me from doing that and I wanted you, dear readers, to be able to take in all of her beauty. I finally got to move her and here are the results. I am looking forward to spilling the beans on how she came to be in an upcoming issue of Reefs Magazine. You can expect to see lots of development photos! I am working hard on the next batch right now and I hope to recreate this event. I’m looking forward to learning more about this genus and being able to share my findings with you! Keep an eye out for the follow up! Go forth: Eat. Sleep. Aquaculture.
humaguy
Premium Member
lol, especially when your tank is 20,000 gallons, the possibilities
humaguy
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hey all,
a bit of an update, nothing new to report, and all seems well. lol, which always worries me. the fish are growing and loving the longer days into summer, and are friskier at this time of the year, lol.
will try and get pics of the fish I missed and the other two tanks soon.
hope you are all well
a bit of an update, nothing new to report, and all seems well. lol, which always worries me. the fish are growing and loving the longer days into summer, and are friskier at this time of the year, lol.
will try and get pics of the fish I missed and the other two tanks soon.
hope you are all well
Achilles Torben
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Hello Ted
Somebody told me that Karen's (yours) missbarred Bandits are hybrids? A genetic test should told this? I thought Karen have only Genicanthus personatus and Apolomichtys arcuatus in this tank so hybrids can't be able?! You can say something about that?
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Somebody told me that Karen's (yours) missbarred Bandits are hybrids? A genetic test should told this? I thought Karen have only Genicanthus personatus and Apolomichtys arcuatus in this tank so hybrids can't be able?! You can say something about that?
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Any update here? Was curious to know if they are hybrids.
Achilles Torben
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I think the hybrid theory makes sense because never heard about a missbarred bandit before so why should there missbarred Bandits by Karen's ones.
Greetings Torben
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humaguy
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Hey guys,
the ghost bandits are pure A arcuatus, not hybrids. The initial thought was, and has not been entirely ruled out, is that is was dietary or a cb related issue. Also discussed whether Leucism was involved. They are doing well and growing, will post some pics later. I just took some but didn't get any good ones of them. Will def be interesting to see them grow
This is from a month or so ago
Here is Jake's article on them.
Ghost Bandit Angelfish is a Captive Bred Miracle
Sept. 19, 2016
The Ghost Bandit angelfish is a spectacular new variant of Apolemichthys arcuatus that was recently captive bred by Karen Brittain. These striking new fish are part of a recent clutch of the glorious bandit angelfish which, for reasons that have yet to be explained or determined, decided to forgo the development of most or all of their namesake black stripe.
Without its signature black stripe across the body, you could be forgiven for thinking that these fish look more like baby masked angelfish, Genicanthus personatus, which Karen Brittain has also captive bred. However, without a black eye-stripe, the general body shape and that caudal fin edged in black, there's no doubt that these are indeed bandit angelfish.
As if the bandit angelfish wasn't illustrious enough on its own, along comes Karen Brittain to show us that this fish can get even more mythical. There's no question that juvenile bandit angelfish are one of the most striking species of angelfish.
One of the things which makes masked angelfish so unique is that beautiful pearl white coloration which is now also being exhibited by another Hawaiian endemic. Interestingly, we have no records of the bandit angelfish ever being collected in the wild with this color pattern.
These fish are from a single batch that hatched on Dec. 5 2015. They went through metamorphosis between 45 and 55 days old and all looked like regular bandit angels at that point. Then a few lost their black coloring while the rest remained as normal looking bandits.
So in our minds the unusual color aberration of the ghost bandit angelfish must be due to some artifacts of captive breeding, and not genetically derived. Unfortunately, for all her experience captive breeding marine angelfish, raising the bandit angelfish remains a challenge for Karen Brittain and not every clutch is a success.
With the patchy success of raising bandit angelfish, and only a fraction of them developing the stripe-less variation, the Ghost Bandit angelfish is quite possibly one of the rarest marine angelfish in the world and the undisclosed price reflects this rarity. And a virtual round of applause goes to Leighton Lum for creating such wonderful photographs to illustrate this fish in its full glory.
This is from his article about a month later
The Ghost Bandit Angelfish was an unexpected, captive bred surprise. It's impressive enough that Karen Brittain was able to breed this revered species in captivity, but raising a few stripeless individuals out of the batch also gave us a very interesting fish to consider.
The Ghost Bandit Angelfish was born in Hawaii, and several specimens made their way to rare fish collectors in Japan. But it was just our luck that one specimen was shipped east to our home town of Denver Colorado where we arranged a play date between the Ghost Bandit Angelfish and our camera.
The shop currently features a tank dedicated to gem tangs, and another one with half a dozen of Brittain's captive bred personatus angelfish, and it's in this display where we caught sight of one of the very few Ghost Bandit Angelfish alive in the world.
The bold diagonal black stripe of juvenile bandit angelfish is objectively what makes them such a striking fish. But when you're expecting the fish to have a stripe and it doesn't, well that's equally surprising.
In the Ghost Bandit Angelfish the signature black band is reduced to a tiny patch behind the eye, and the black edge of the anal and caudal fin is also reduced. The Ghost Bandit Angelfish is not all white though, as the upper half of the body is still showing the light cream-grey coloration of a normal Apolemichthys arcuatus.
All of the Ghost Bandit Angelfish are still pretty small, barely scratching two inches long. It's between this size and about four inches that a normal bandit angelfish undergoes the biggest transformation to its appearance from juvenile to adult coloration.
It will be very interesting to observe the development of the Ghost Bandit Angelfish's coloration and especially to see the transition from the white belly to the grey back without to a black stripe to divide these areas. We'll be sure to do our part to document the Mile High Ghost Bandit as it develops and in the meantime, kudos to Karen Brittain for breeding such a unique fish and to Stone Aquatics for hosting one of the very few examples of this rare morph.
I love these fish, not the prettiest as an adult, but such great personalities.
Eating Larry's like a champ
there is nothing like a R trig
Received these guys almost exactly 3 years ago, they were 85 days old then.
The R hybrid/new sp? This came 1 year ago, last weekend. He has gotten big, around 5 inches, from 2.25.
the x trig.
the ghost bandits are pure A arcuatus, not hybrids. The initial thought was, and has not been entirely ruled out, is that is was dietary or a cb related issue. Also discussed whether Leucism was involved. They are doing well and growing, will post some pics later. I just took some but didn't get any good ones of them. Will def be interesting to see them grow
This is from a month or so ago
Here is Jake's article on them.
Ghost Bandit Angelfish is a Captive Bred Miracle
Sept. 19, 2016
The Ghost Bandit angelfish is a spectacular new variant of Apolemichthys arcuatus that was recently captive bred by Karen Brittain. These striking new fish are part of a recent clutch of the glorious bandit angelfish which, for reasons that have yet to be explained or determined, decided to forgo the development of most or all of their namesake black stripe.
Without its signature black stripe across the body, you could be forgiven for thinking that these fish look more like baby masked angelfish, Genicanthus personatus, which Karen Brittain has also captive bred. However, without a black eye-stripe, the general body shape and that caudal fin edged in black, there's no doubt that these are indeed bandit angelfish.
As if the bandit angelfish wasn't illustrious enough on its own, along comes Karen Brittain to show us that this fish can get even more mythical. There's no question that juvenile bandit angelfish are one of the most striking species of angelfish.
One of the things which makes masked angelfish so unique is that beautiful pearl white coloration which is now also being exhibited by another Hawaiian endemic. Interestingly, we have no records of the bandit angelfish ever being collected in the wild with this color pattern.
These fish are from a single batch that hatched on Dec. 5 2015. They went through metamorphosis between 45 and 55 days old and all looked like regular bandit angels at that point. Then a few lost their black coloring while the rest remained as normal looking bandits.
So in our minds the unusual color aberration of the ghost bandit angelfish must be due to some artifacts of captive breeding, and not genetically derived. Unfortunately, for all her experience captive breeding marine angelfish, raising the bandit angelfish remains a challenge for Karen Brittain and not every clutch is a success.
With the patchy success of raising bandit angelfish, and only a fraction of them developing the stripe-less variation, the Ghost Bandit angelfish is quite possibly one of the rarest marine angelfish in the world and the undisclosed price reflects this rarity. And a virtual round of applause goes to Leighton Lum for creating such wonderful photographs to illustrate this fish in its full glory.
This is from his article about a month later
The Ghost Bandit Angelfish was an unexpected, captive bred surprise. It's impressive enough that Karen Brittain was able to breed this revered species in captivity, but raising a few stripeless individuals out of the batch also gave us a very interesting fish to consider.
The Ghost Bandit Angelfish was born in Hawaii, and several specimens made their way to rare fish collectors in Japan. But it was just our luck that one specimen was shipped east to our home town of Denver Colorado where we arranged a play date between the Ghost Bandit Angelfish and our camera.
The shop currently features a tank dedicated to gem tangs, and another one with half a dozen of Brittain's captive bred personatus angelfish, and it's in this display where we caught sight of one of the very few Ghost Bandit Angelfish alive in the world.
The bold diagonal black stripe of juvenile bandit angelfish is objectively what makes them such a striking fish. But when you're expecting the fish to have a stripe and it doesn't, well that's equally surprising.
In the Ghost Bandit Angelfish the signature black band is reduced to a tiny patch behind the eye, and the black edge of the anal and caudal fin is also reduced. The Ghost Bandit Angelfish is not all white though, as the upper half of the body is still showing the light cream-grey coloration of a normal Apolemichthys arcuatus.
All of the Ghost Bandit Angelfish are still pretty small, barely scratching two inches long. It's between this size and about four inches that a normal bandit angelfish undergoes the biggest transformation to its appearance from juvenile to adult coloration.
It will be very interesting to observe the development of the Ghost Bandit Angelfish's coloration and especially to see the transition from the white belly to the grey back without to a black stripe to divide these areas. We'll be sure to do our part to document the Mile High Ghost Bandit as it develops and in the meantime, kudos to Karen Brittain for breeding such a unique fish and to Stone Aquatics for hosting one of the very few examples of this rare morph.
I love these fish, not the prettiest as an adult, but such great personalities.
Eating Larry's like a champ
there is nothing like a R trig
Received these guys almost exactly 3 years ago, they were 85 days old then.
The R hybrid/new sp? This came 1 year ago, last weekend. He has gotten big, around 5 inches, from 2.25.
the x trig.
humaguy
Premium Member
I really need to clean the tank
Karen named this one "Dash"
and this one "Casper"
Syd's flames are getting big. Somebody asked about them recently. As of a couple weeks ago, there were a few left from his last batch. He had some poor weather that slowed production, but luckily he will have more in july.
Hard to get all 6 at once
Karen named this one "Dash"
and this one "Casper"
Syd's flames are getting big. Somebody asked about them recently. As of a couple weeks ago, there were a few left from his last batch. He had some poor weather that slowed production, but luckily he will have more in july.
Hard to get all 6 at once
humaguy
Premium Member
hey jim,
agree, the names are perfect.
they are in the 250 qt
lol, the flames are always moving, are totally insane, and look as if they are up to something, and I'm never really quite sure exactly just what that something is.:worried: one recently bounced off the side of the trigger as it was spinning in circles chasing its tail, the trig, though totally startled, wasn't sure how to react, funny to see. will get video of the at some point soon. tk
