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[mpoletti]

I would start out with the elos AA's. They are really nice. There has been so much zeo/probidio talk of late in the SPS forum. Its making me sick. I am really tired of the overnight reef thing. Enjoy the corals in your tank.

If you have any doubts, just look at Tim's tank Its funny, when Steve was over, he asked Tim if he ran Zeo. Tim smiled and simply said no.

 

[cbui2]

i don't know half about zeo, but read up on it all the time and corals are doing just fine. brown when first purchased then colored up very nicely and encrusting after 2 months. i noticed the improvement by adding full blown tunzes

 

[ConcreteReefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12479392#post12479392 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maximus
Been thinking about Amino Acids. To say this, it pains me. I am really an old school reefer and always balked at the Zeo system. I may give this a try soon even though my corals are really looking good now and the system is extremely stable. Am I stupid or what for even considering this?

Yes, You are so stupid!

j/k :lol:

don't do it.. why add anything if it's working fine the way it is?

 

[kar93]

If it aint broke dont fix it.

 

[Jar*Head]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12479544#post12479544 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cbui2
i don't know half about zeo, but read up on it all the time and corals are doing just fine. brown when first purchased then colored up very nicely and encrusting after 2 months. i noticed the improvement by adding full blown tunzes

You don't even know much about reefing either :lol:

 

[GSMguy]

Maximus needs AA because he has no fish and a big skimmer, he will only see benefits from using it no negatives i can imagine..

Amino acid dosing is not ZEO not even close

 

[Jar*Head]

I don't see any adverse affect on dosing AA unless he overdosed the tank

 

[mpoletti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481027#post12481027 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
You don't even know much about reefing either :lol:

Thats messed up Steve. How is your tank doing these days

Its kind of funny that you sit in front of your computer all day and post more than me, but you are tankless :lol:

I know, I know, "just wait Mark".

 

[Jar*Head]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481106#post12481106 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marko9
Thats messed up Steve. How is your tank doing these days

Its kind of funny that you sit in front of your computer all day and post more than me, but you are tankless :lol:

I know, I know, "just wait Mark".

Do you know how hard it is to walk by my tank and all the equipment everyday and knowing that i won't be able to get it up till Sep :lol: . Now you hurt my feeling for mentioned the word "TANK LESS".

Oh, that is not bad yet. Joe (KEEPERZ) already frag/mount all his coral in the prop tank waiting for my tank to be up and running so he can send them over. My Vlamingi Tang is waiting for his new home. Stryker (Terry) also has a bunch of frags waiting for me as well. :mixed:

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481093#post12481093 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jar*Head
I don't see any adverse affect on dosing AA unless he overdosed the tank

exactly there are allot of reefers out there whose nitrates are too low and as a result their corals are pale, AA seems like a great way to gain some control over nitrates and coral coloration.

 

[kar93]

Nitrates too low! I never knew there was such thing.

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481181#post12481181 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
Nitrates too low! I never knew there was such thing.

0 nitrates = Dead SPS.

Nitrates are like food and water to corals, essential.

FWIW i have seen the best colors in my own tanks with Nitrates from 5-15 PPM

 

[kar93]

Really? I would never know, since i can remember my nitrates have been mostly above 10 and rarely below 5. And having only kept a few SPS i couldnt really tell if they were flourishing or just surviving. When ive seen all the beautiful SPS dominated tanks such as the italians i thought they must be battling nitrates with all that stock. And i wondered why they was thriving with high nitrates.

 

[Maximus]

Do any of you guys run Amino's? Not sure if I should go with Zeovit AA's or Elos.

 

[ooja3k]

I run the zeo aa's, and thats the only thing I add.

I love them! There are some threads about aminos around here somewhere with some nice before and after shots...

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481251#post12481251 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maximus
Do any of you guys run Amino's? Not sure if I should go with Zeovit AA's or Elos.

i use the KZ but i have heard great stuff about the Elos, both formulas get good reviews, both are highly concentrated.

 

[Jar*Head]

Sang, i ran Zeovit for a few years and their AA pretty strong. You can try the AA and Coral vitalizer.

 

[kar93]

With all this talk about Zeovit and AA. What are the benefits of these? Ive been interested in the Zeovit but dont know much about it.

 

[mpoletti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481189#post12481189 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
0 nitrates = Dead SPS.

Nitrates are like food and water to corals, essential.

FWIW i have seen the best colors in my own tanks with Nitrates from 5-15 PPM

I love it when I hear people who know what they are talking about. I have mine between 10-20 and my colors are decent

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481251#post12481251 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Maximus
Do any of you guys run Amino's? Not sure if I should go with Zeovit AA's or Elos.

Up here, we've all ran different brands and from what I've gathered, elos were the preferred choice. I've used 3 bottles in a year. I'll use them for a couple weeks until the bottle runs out.

Its worth a try Sang

 

[GSMguy]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12481293#post12481293 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kar93
With all this talk about Zeovit and AA. What are the benefits of these? Ive been interested in the Zeovit but dont know much about it.

zeovit and fauna marin and elos purist all do the same thing the zeolite rocks are home to denitrifying bacteria and also are involved in some sort of Ion exchange with ammonia they absorb the ammonia. each system has a bacteria source that is dosed along with a bacteria food Bacteria foods are carbon sources like vodka and they feed the bacteria and bind organics allowing them to be exported by the skimmer.

also with zeo you create bacterial slime on the rocks that is shaken off daily into the water column to feed the corals and help the skimmer remove the organics


AA acids really have nothing to do with zeo except that with low nutrient systems there is a need to control the amount of nitrate in the water the AA also feed bacteria which in turn feed corals.