37 gallon move to a 90 gallon bb problems

[gavin123]

I recently moved my 37 gallon to a 90 gallon BB, and nothing is doing well, my frogspawn, hammer and candycane, are defiantly on the bubble of dying.

ive checked the ph, ammonia and nitrites and everything is in normal range. the salinty is 1.26, temp is 77.

i've done a move before but can't figure out whats going on.

can someone give me some insight. the setup of my 90 gallon is a 55 gallon sump with an asm g1x skimmer. 2 maxi jet 900, 1 maxijet1200 with a mag 7 return. with the same lighting as before.

my fish are also breathing really hard.

gavin

 

[otterpop510]

i guess a few questions to help.. how did you do the move? how long has it been since the move was done? did you use your old tank water to fill your new tank. old/new lr and/or live sand?

not sure if you moved the sandbed too, perhaps the concentrated pollutants. or if the tank is used, chemicals from prior user.

perhaps starting with some major water changes and running carbon/phosban and making sure skimmer is aerating enough would potentially help if you haven't already done so..

 

[otterpop510]

btw, nice looking tank in the last shot.. everyone looks happy (but i'm not the tang police.. hehe.. )

 

[gavin123]

ok skimmer is on really wet, don't have a sand bed, and used about 45 gallons of old water. didn't move any sand. 3 days ago i did the move. i'm really upset with the move. about 8 months ago i did a move from my house in foster city all the way to san jose and didn't loose anything. and now i movd it less than 3 blocks without driving and stuff looks horrible.

gavin

 

[Kinetic]

maybe something released some nasty toxins...

aren't leathers known to potentially release some unpleasant stuff into the tank?

Anyway, I'd run a ton of carbon 24/7 and do a few water changes during the week. That's really the best you can do at this point.

Also double check your salinity / refractometer or whatever you use, and also thermometers... something might have gone out of wack, and you just can't see it =/

goodluck!

 

[otterpop510]

ah, saw that your tank was bb now. how well did you clean out your tank before you transferred? was the tank new or old? any possibility of any contamination from other chemicals in tank prior or anything else?

any chance any of your measuring instruments are out of wack or not properly calibarated.

what are the symptoms for your corals?

normally the lps you mentioned are pretty hardy, and if you used your old lr, water and equipment it doesn't seem like too many variables there that changed. maybe too much co2, though doesn't seem like that would effect that quickly (3 days) and severly.

 

[gavin123]

i'm using a refractometer and have used two thermometers. and my tank is bb and cleaned it throughly. my lps are just not opening and they are loosing all there skin.

 

[DarkXerox]

hows your alk/calcium looking? Also what kind of test kits are you using? All I can think of is that maybe the new batch of water was bad, do you have an RO/DI unit at the new house?

 

[Mr. Ugly]

If fish are breathing really hard, it sounds like an ammonia spike, or a chloramine problem.

If the corals are looking bad too, it may be a mini-cycle, despite your readings.

Or maybe copper or something in the water or tank is causing problems for the corals, which then cause probs for the fish.

Did you have any components, plumbing, filter, reactor that had water that might have gone anaerobic on you before hooking up to the system? Didn't smell any hydrogen sulfide, right?

Water changes, water conditioner, could help.

 

[gavin123]

well i did use water from the glacier machines, but other than that my whole system had no stagnant water or anything. the thing is my shrimp seem to be doing fine. the only fish with probelms is the wrasse. hes'just kind of floating in one area and breathing really hard. do you recomend using that amquel plus?

the water also looks a little mirky. and things are looking a tiny bit better than yesterday, but i think i've lost the frogspawn.

i was using the cheap salt water test kits but the reading were al 0.

 

[Kinetic]

cheap kits always read 0 =(

 

[Mr. Ugly]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9358331#post9358331 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gavin123
the water also looks a little mirky.

Bacterial bloom? Low oxygen?

 

[jedininja]

Did you have the new tank all setup before the move?

 

[bookfish]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9359022#post9359022 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mr. Ugly
Bacterial bloom? Low oxygen?

That's what it looks like to me too. I don't think I'd trust those test kits. Regardless of the cause, carbon and especially water changes (20% daily) will fix it up.

 

[gavin123]

ok i'll do a water change, 20 gallons. all the fish are kind of having a hard time staying down. in the water. what doe that mean

 

[gavin123]

the move was done in one day, everytihng out everything in. my sps are bleaching as well. why is the water cloudy, from the ammonia.

 

[gavin123]

my ammonia reads .25ppm ona cheap kit right now.

 

[Mr. Ugly]

Quick note for now.

Fish are at the top of the water trying to get oxygen.

Something went bad in your tank causing a mini cycle, and it's trying to crash.

Ammonia is causing bacterial bloom. That's the cloudy stuff you see.

Change water, use carbon, use amquel.

 

[racrumrine]

In the picture you posted of the 37 (with the sand), what is in the middle of the picture?

If it is a Colt Coral, that could be part of the problem. Over the years, I've been noticing if my Colt is stressed it releases a real strong chemical/toxin that can impact almost everything else in the tank.

Also, did you change the lights? After a move, it will often take a few days for the critters to perk back up.

I have a frogspawn that I moved to another tank with different lighting, it took several days before it looked normal again. The frogspawn in the picture you posted is stressed; but, not dead. If it still looks like that (or even worse), leave it alone. They can often recover.

I second the water change idea. If you used 45 gallons out of a 37 gallon system, you might have sucked up some crap once you disturbed the old sand bed.

Best of luck,

Roy

 

[gavin123]

thats not a colt leather it's actaully a singulria(spelling) but the fish arnt' at the top of the tank, there swimming and eating it's just my six line who looks like he's gonna die.

gavin