600 Gallon Upgrade Build
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We are waiting for bills to clear. We don't know what's next. We got an appointment on 20 June 2013 to talk to the doctor that's going to perform the surgery but just not that day.
I was thinking on finishing the mixing station for starters. Still thinking about upgrading to either a 150 or 300 gph RO/DI unit. Other than that I'm cool.
david00061
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You going to make it to Worldwide corals birthday sale?
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Haven't been on their site. I'll have to find out. More than likely yes.
david00061
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i think it is June 15th - 16th i cant make it. Ill be in seattle
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I have a reef meeting that day so I wont be able to make it either.
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Update
Update
This update is related to the build but so far it has just been experimental.
For the past three to four months I converted my 225 to the Red Sea Program. If you don't know already(or if you do know then disregard) Red Sea has two types of salt, Red Sea Coral Salt and the Red Sea Coral Pro Salt. Up until a couple months ago I didn't know that each salt had a purpose. Red Sea Coral Salt is used for coral color with parameters of Calcium - 410, ALK - 7.7, and Magnesium - 1280. The Red Sea Coral Pro Salt is used for growth with maybe some color loss(meaning not losing total color but not the color achieved by the coral salt parameters) with parameters of Calcium - 450, ALK - 12.2, and Magnesium - 1340. And I have used both salts but in the opposite form. So now i am concentrating and dialing in with the Red Sea Coral Salt and using the Red Sea Coral Colors program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN_cc7yCE8w&list=PLhYidgolK0OYuXcMZBhKh2vhPzN2Phdfe&index=4
Along with the Colors Program, I am also doing the Algae Management Program as to keeping Nitrates and Phosphates at optimal levels depending on the type of program you are using with a product called NoPox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3SFOxITwGo&list=PLhYidgolK0OYuXcMZBhKh2vhPzN2Phdfe
Here is where it gets crazy. Before using the program I was using GFO, Bio Pellets, and on occasion doing a LaCl treatment all at the same time as I was fighting Phosphates and Nitrates(averaging around .3-.4 phosphates and 10 - 15 nitrates). I was doing alot of things trying to fix one thing and well basically i was messing my tank up. I started dosing the NoPox based on tank volume and type of tank, i.e. SPS, LPS, or Softies. After two weeks of dosing Nitrates dropped to .75 and phosphates dropped to .1. Before I started dosing I did stop the LaCl treatment, later I took the GFO offline, and later took the bio pellets offline because they began melting and turning black which I believe was because of the over carbon dosing with the NoPox. I hope I said that right.
The only problem I am experiencing is my phosphates are creeping up and down and I know its because of what I am feeding. Which food it is I don't know but at the moment I am trying each food per week to eliminate which food has the phosphates.
So the plan during this build is to have my coral colony/frag tank will utilize the growth program and the DT will have the color program.
Also I am wondering how I will do my refugium and whether to grow different macros or just use Chaeto. I read that Chaeto grows better if it was spinning and I didnt know how to make that happen so I made a mock up in my sump refugium and here is a video of the Chaeto spinning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXCsNH4pxyY
Thanks everyone for your patience.
Update
This update is related to the build but so far it has just been experimental.
For the past three to four months I converted my 225 to the Red Sea Program. If you don't know already(or if you do know then disregard) Red Sea has two types of salt, Red Sea Coral Salt and the Red Sea Coral Pro Salt. Up until a couple months ago I didn't know that each salt had a purpose. Red Sea Coral Salt is used for coral color with parameters of Calcium - 410, ALK - 7.7, and Magnesium - 1280. The Red Sea Coral Pro Salt is used for growth with maybe some color loss(meaning not losing total color but not the color achieved by the coral salt parameters) with parameters of Calcium - 450, ALK - 12.2, and Magnesium - 1340. And I have used both salts but in the opposite form. So now i am concentrating and dialing in with the Red Sea Coral Salt and using the Red Sea Coral Colors program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN_cc7yCE8w&list=PLhYidgolK0OYuXcMZBhKh2vhPzN2Phdfe&index=4
Along with the Colors Program, I am also doing the Algae Management Program as to keeping Nitrates and Phosphates at optimal levels depending on the type of program you are using with a product called NoPox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3SFOxITwGo&list=PLhYidgolK0OYuXcMZBhKh2vhPzN2Phdfe
Here is where it gets crazy. Before using the program I was using GFO, Bio Pellets, and on occasion doing a LaCl treatment all at the same time as I was fighting Phosphates and Nitrates(averaging around .3-.4 phosphates and 10 - 15 nitrates). I was doing alot of things trying to fix one thing and well basically i was messing my tank up. I started dosing the NoPox based on tank volume and type of tank, i.e. SPS, LPS, or Softies. After two weeks of dosing Nitrates dropped to .75 and phosphates dropped to .1. Before I started dosing I did stop the LaCl treatment, later I took the GFO offline, and later took the bio pellets offline because they began melting and turning black which I believe was because of the over carbon dosing with the NoPox. I hope I said that right.
The only problem I am experiencing is my phosphates are creeping up and down and I know its because of what I am feeding. Which food it is I don't know but at the moment I am trying each food per week to eliminate which food has the phosphates.
So the plan during this build is to have my coral colony/frag tank will utilize the growth program and the DT will have the color program.
Also I am wondering how I will do my refugium and whether to grow different macros or just use Chaeto. I read that Chaeto grows better if it was spinning and I didnt know how to make that happen so I made a mock up in my sump refugium and here is a video of the Chaeto spinning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXCsNH4pxyY
Thanks everyone for your patience.
dca22anderson
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Cool video Wayne! Love me some spinning chaeto!
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Thanks dca. Your tank is pimpin too
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Thanks worm. Trying to catch up to your video making skills.
mrx66699
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done it .....did it .....already crossed that path...I think this is what you are looking for.....here is my 50gal fuge with the cheto doing just what you are looking for ....
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Over thinking????
My layout plan
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I'll call you on that and we will discuss it from there.
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Well so far here is the deal.y present tank is 225 with a sump/refugium that is adding about another 20-25 gallons of water.
Presently I have 2 large hard corals(one is a Monticello cap)
And a poccillapora colony.
The rest are basically 1-2" frags and plenty of LPS. Since I'm dosing as if its an SPS tank daily the recommendation is 2 mls per 25 gallons of water or 20 mls. Well for some forsaken reason my phosphates jumped up so now I'm dosing 30 mls a day. Last week they were .51ppm and yesterday they measured .44 ppm. Nitrates are around 1-2 ppm. I had to in erase feeding so phosphates will decrease because they were higher than that. But at the same time I'm thinking I'm getting a false reading because the vials are kind of cloudy.
I am trying to track the source of the phosphates and eradicate them as much as possible. I don't know anywhere else to check. Any ideas?
Oh yea, I also will be starting the tank with the reef saver rock. Anyone hear any good or bad things about it?
Leroy.
Well so far here is the deal.y present tank is 225 with a sump/refugium that is adding about another 20-25 gallons of water.
Presently I have 2 large hard corals(one is a Monticello cap
And a poccillapora colony.
The rest are basically 1-2" frags and plenty of LPS. Since I'm dosing as if its an SPS tank daily the recommendation is 2 mls per 25 gallons of water or 20 mls. Well for some forsaken reason my phosphates jumped up so now I'm dosing 30 mls a day. Last week they were .51ppm and yesterday they measured .44 ppm. Nitrates are around 1-2 ppm. I had to in erase feeding so phosphates will decrease because they were higher than that. But at the same time I'm thinking I'm getting a false reading because the vials are kind of cloudy.
I am trying to track the source of the phosphates and eradicate them as much as possible. I don't know anywhere else to check. Any ideas?
Oh yea, I also will be starting the tank with the reef saver rock. Anyone hear any good or bad things about it?
Leroy.
