$600 Per Polyp?!?!?

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And yes, I appreciate you being the bigger man and avoiding all my questions in the previous reply. Bring up the dignity card, like that people forget you didn't answer my questions.

This is just a silly online debate, yet you are getting all defensive over my questions, when I have answered all of yours MORE than once!

Again sir: Kindest Regards,

-Jc [/B]
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the only question of yours i could find:
you asked me what happens when supply goes down whilst demand is going up; but that really is not relevant to a microeconomic situation which this is. if you had placed your oe on ebay and the bidding had gone to 600 then we could say market forces determined the price; but as it stands now you alone set the price. what made you feel they were no longer worth 100 per polyps but 600? did someone offer you 600 when you had said they weren't for sale? if that was the case then i stand behind your pricing decision. otherwise its greed, which i can understand just as well.


and i don't envy you or your zoas; ive got more than enough types as it is, and i buy them because i like the look, not because of some nomenclature designed to increase their demand.
 
Hey Voltekker,

Yes I am in Miami, Yes I am in the Florida MArine Aquarium Society. No storefront, just a hobbyist that sells frags from his tank. You are welcomed to pass by and check out the tank one day.

Kindest Regards,

-Jc
 
Also im really unbiased in this discussion im not a collector and i really dont care about JC's prices. Somone mentioned somwhere that these are very common in japan. If they are common in japan why havent people done some sort of group buy and had them shipped ?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130501#post8130501 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Voltekker
Also im really unbiased in this discussion im not a collector and i really dont care about JC's prices. Somone mentioned somwhere that these are very common in japan. If they are common in japan why havent people done some sort of group buy and had them shipped ?
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have you ever tried to ship a coral from japan?
me either
 
Twon,

*Sigh* You are making my fingers tired from all the typeing. :lol:

Look, I don't use ebay because I do not like it that much. I think people would prefer to just buy what they want than have to wait a week and then see if they Could buy it.

Yes I am glad you mentioned all this because Now I notice I failied to mention it anywhere.

Like I said they where $50 per polyp they went up to $100 I stopped selling them because I had few left. And like I have said before people kept e-mailing me about them. Yes I did not mention it before, people did offer me insane amounts of money for them. some more than $600. I origionally put them after the $100 mark at $500 people wanted to buy more than one polyp at a time. Finally the $600 price came and only two polyps for sale. Thats it. Even at $600 a polyp I have been asked if I sell multi polyp frags. Some people just don't want to wait for a single polyp to grow.

Perhaps that is why we have been in a misunderstanding all along. I did not out of the blue say "Hey I want $600 for them." The nomenclature is there just to follow the indivudual morphs. Like what would you ask for if you wanted the purple monster?? with all rare corals you get them because you like them and appreciate the diffrences they have. Not because you like the name.

Take care,

-Jc
 
no but im sure we could figure it out if we wanted it that bad. IMO me and you are on the wrong side of the US. This would be somthing a group from california should try. I know for sure there is people on RC from japan/ that side of the world. Why not ask them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130591#post8130591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisaggie
Why are we assuming these are common in Japan?
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because i have seen numerous pics of them on japanese sw store web sites, and read people from japan saying they are common.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130567#post8130567 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Voltekker
no but im sure we could figure it out if we wanted it that bad. IMO me and you are on the wrong side of the US. This would be somthing a group from california should try. I know for sure there is people on RC from japan/ that side of the world. Why not ask them.
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i believe there are legal issues as well, though i;m not certain; i don't speak japanese, which would make it difficult from the getgo.
 
Paying for a rare zoa/paly is no different than buying a pricey car/home/jewelry. If you have the money to spend and want it more power to ya. If there are a ton in japan,Where are they?concidering what some people spend on their tanks in general nowadays thats a drop in the bucket.Try to post OEs and RPEs
side by side soon. Spend more on tank than camera though.
 
Bill, I can not reply to all of you're post because I have spent most of day off on the computer replying since the morning. But I will tell you what you call hobby friendly is probably the worst thing you could do. If you think holding on to a rare species or morph is hobby friendly, I can assure you it's not. So now if something happens to you're colony or you're friends frag the strain is gone. Not smart huh?? Maybe people have gotten Envy oranges from me at cheap prices and for free as I said befor (which you might have missed)

If I would have hogged the Envy Oranges to myself then call me "What is wrong in this hobby" otherwise look at you're actions you might find what you are doing is "What is wrong in the hobby"

Thanks to people like me, Tyree, Tub's, Matt, Jendub, etc etc. We will always have rare morphs availiable. At least we know the people buying them will be able to keep them alive and appreciate them for what they are. But from what you said, what ever morph you have is sure to be eventually doomed to a "remember that coral?"

Take care man,

-Jc
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130604#post8130604 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by twon8
because i have seen numerous pics of them on japanese sw store web sites, and read people from japan saying they are common.
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Please post some links.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130617#post8130617 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisaggie
Please post some links.
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i don't remember where; its been three months or more.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130638#post8130638 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by twon8
i don't remember where; its been three months or more.
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Man, they must be super common over there!
 
I'll step in here quickly and say the next attacks in any form taken by anyone will result in time outs given. Time based upon severity.

twon8 I will start with you since I did see one from you. Strike one. We can try for two if you wish.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130547#post8130547 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Juan-Carlos

Look, I don't use ebay because I do not like it that much. I think people would prefer to just buy what they want than have to wait a week and then see if they Could buy it.
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i think you dont use ebay b/c you know you wont get near the amount for them on ebay, that you are selling them on your site for. (if you'd like to prove me wrong, sell a frag on ebay and see what it goes for...i doubt it would break $200, so you cant use a reserve or buy it now option)

IMO, they arent worth $x if you cant sell them for $x to multiple people. just b/c one or two people offered, or bought them for $500/$600 still doesnt make them worth that much.

but if some nut wants to buy them for that, b/c it makes them feel special, more power to them. just dont plead ignorance, you are milking them for as much as you can get.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8130722#post8130722 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chrisaggie
I looked on the above link, but did not see anything similar, did I miss something?
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third post down in that link:

Wow! I would give my pinkie finger for that rock covered in Envy Orange! That rock would be worth a mint

the pictures aren't on the site anylonger, as they assuredly sold them since march. but i remember seeing them, and they were orange, not rpe's
 
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