600gal (96x48x30)

[asnatlas]

6 phase lighting scheme...

6 phase lighting scheme...

I am looking at doing a 6 phase lighting scheme as follows :

First 4x T5s turning on for the first 30-60min+/-
Last 4x T5s turning on after 30-60min+/-
Stagger the MHs turning on every 30 min+/-
MH staying on for about 8hrs+/-
Stagger the MHs turning off every 30 min+/-
First 4x T5s off
Last 4 T5s off after 30-60min+/-

Comments ??

 

[jnarowe]

sweet. those lamps are awefully close to the drop ceiling...how will you control the heat? Maybe if you swap the panels over the tank for egg crate, that would allow the heat to rise off the tank better?

 

[mflamb]

Shawn, What bulbs are you using?
Mike

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8611604#post8611604 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
sweet. those lamps are awefully close to the drop ceiling...how will you control the heat? Maybe if you swap the panels over the tank for egg crate, that would allow the heat to rise off the tank better?

As you see it in the pic is how it will be staying... I am not going to be placing the panels back... Once I am finished with the tank I will be making a 3 sided canopy that will hide the top of the tank... Inside the canopy I will be installing fans that will push the hot air into the other fish room via the large hole you see and vented outside...

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8611614#post8611614 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mflamb
Shawn, What bulbs are you using?
Mike

I am also installing the following T5s...

4x 54W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent

4x 54W Actinic Plus T5 HO Fluorescent

 

[Andrew]

Looks good! :thumbsup:

 

[jnarowe]

got it. good idea.

 

[mflamb]

Shawn, do you find the combination of 14K and Actinic to be too blue or is the color match good? I'm still deciding on lighting as I build all my plumbing. The MH pictures look a little blue, but sometimes pics don't do justice to lighting.
Mike

 

[CaveManNOhio]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8609670#post8609670 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by asnatlas
That crossed my mind but I didn't do it... Now they are in place with 350+ lbs on them, so they can stay

You could still do it if you really want. Just get a bit extension. If you know an Electrician you could probably borrow one from them. Other wise check out the drill bit section at your favorite LHS.

 

[tentacles]

I know you said that you already have your rubbermaid full, but you might want to consider placing something between the pvc and the sump to distribute the weight a little better. My LFS had a 300g rubbermaid that cracked because he had it sitting directly on cinder blocks, which did not distribute the weight very well. JMO. Can't wait to see pics with the new lights up.

 

[CaveManNOhio]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8611476#post8611476 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by asnatlas
Well here are the pics...

Hey Shawn, is that an AC vent I see on the left side? If so it would be very easy to install an additional vent and direct it to blow more over the lights. And if that is an Air return pan also, you could add a grill to it, then on the left side of your future canopy put a fan blowing back towards the Air Return below the lights. In the winter time you would need to be able to close the air vent that is blowing so you're not blowing heat across them.
Just a thought.

When do you plan on having all your lights in?
The Display tank is really starting to take shape and looking good. Is the system totally up and running & do you have salt in the system yet?

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8611822#post8611822 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mflamb
Shawn, do you find the combination of 14K and Actinic to be too blue or is the color match good? I'm still deciding on lighting as I build all my plumbing. The MH pictures look a little blue, but sometimes pics don't do justice to lighting.
Mike

I really like the MH / T5 combo... As you stated the pics don't do justice, I will play around with my camera and try to get some more "accurate" shots...

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8613046#post8613046 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tentacles
I know you said that you already have your rubbermaid full, but you might want to consider placing something between the pvc and the sump to distribute the weight a little better. My LFS had a 300g rubbermaid that cracked because he had it sitting directly on cinder blocks, which did not distribute the weight very well. JMO. Can't wait to see pics with the new lights up.

I am not following ?? I have three columns / flanges supporting each 50gal rebbermaid tub as well as the sides of the 150gals... Since filling them with water I have messed with them and they both seem very sturdy, and the PVC columns are cut to fit in there perfect...

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8614665#post8614665 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CaveManNOhio
Hey Shawn, is that an AC vent I see on the left side? If so it would be very easy to install an additional vent and direct it to blow more over the lights. And if that is an Air return pan also, you could add a grill to it, then on the left side of your future canopy put a fan blowing back towards the Air Return below the lights. In the winter time you would need to be able to close the air vent that is blowing so you're not blowing heat across them.
Just a thought.

When do you plan on having all your lights in?
The Display tank is really starting to take shape and looking good. Is the system totally up and running & do you have salt in the system yet?

Yea that is a heating/cooling vent... It would be a pain to try to cut into that as I don't have much room to work with over the tank... Let me just say that installing the lights were FUN !!! I will be installing two Honeywell (HT800) fans that will be set to come on with a .5deg raise in water temp to push the air into the fish room and then from there outside...

The system is pretty much complete at this point as I mixed the salt last wk... Temp has been stable at 77+/- .3deg... As of about 7 hrs ago I finished installing the T5s... Only thing I can think of that I still need to complete is getting the RO / LM3 hooked up and running... And of course once that is done I am sure I will be tinkering around with things

What would be the easiest way to figure out how much water is lost per day ??

4x Actinic Plus Only

4x Actinic Plus + 4x Blue Plus

4x Actinic Plus + 4x Blue Plus + 4x250w Ham 14k

I forgot to get a pic of just the 4x Blue Plus running... I really like the output from those bulbs...

The pics above are just a few quick shots, I will try to get more accurate shots as those came out more blue then are in person...

 

[mattyice]

to try and kool it down a bit i would recommend either getting a fresh air ventilation system, takes out the hot air and replaces it with fresh air from outside, or i would get a ductless split system in prolly a 3 ton unit, to get that you could contact a local HVAC company and they could give you a quote on a system it will most likely be somewhere around $3,000 but its an add on system to just cool that room

 

[jnarowe]

water loss per day is highly variable especially when just starting up. There are so many variables like how you cool (fans promote evaporation), ambient temp., what kind of pumps you are using, how long your light period is and what type of lights, air volume around the tank, etc. I am using between 7 and 10g per day I think, but I don't have a good way to measure it exactly.

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8616332#post8616332 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mattyice
to try and kool it down a bit i would recommend either getting a fresh air ventilation system, takes out the hot air and replaces it with fresh air from outside, or i would get a ductless split system in prolly a 3 ton unit, to get that you could contact a local HVAC company and they could give you a quote on a system it will most likely be somewhere around $3,000 but its an add on system to just cool that room

I will be installing the following in the fish room to vent the hot/humid air outside... I also have an air intake in the room so that the air will get drawn into the heating/cooling system as well...

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8616383#post8616383 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
water loss per day is highly variable especially when just starting up. There are so many variables like how you cool (fans promote evaporation), ambient temp., what kind of pumps you are using, how long your light period is and what type of lights, air volume around the tank, etc. I am using between 7 and 10g per day I think, but I don't have a good way to measure it exactly.

I know that all of the above are variables and there is no set number per size tank... I was not asking what my system will/could lose as no one can say for sure, I was just hoping that some people had some tip on how to effectively measure the lose on a system this large...

 

[mattyice]

im not sure how you really could measure it besides the first couple days topping it off by hand and then take an average to let you know what it is, i guess you get a water meter that measures GPD but that would most likely be expensive and i dont know if you could find one that you would be able to put inline because the only ones i have seen are bronze, also where did you get those rubbermaid bins at? im trying to find something like that to start growing frags out of and i cant find them anywhere up here in the akron/canton area

 

[asnatlas]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8616597#post8616597 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mattyice
also where did you get those rubbermaid bins at? im trying to find something like that to start growing frags out of and i cant find them anywhere up here in the akron/canton area

I got them from TSC... They are a local chain here in Ohio... I am sure you can go to any farming / livestock store and be able to find them...