600gal (96x48x30)
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mcdonaldtj
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Boy your situation sucks Iwould be totally P***ed that they put you in behind even though you are payikng them to do this. One thing I heard about the BK's though are they are not water-tight so they have to sit in the sump you cannot use them externally. Just somthing that I read. Idea looks great though.
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asnatlas
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I was wondering that, but I don't think so... They have been busy for the past few wks... I just figured that since the tank has been in town for about a wk, they were going to actually sched me in, not try to squeeze me in... But from what i was told today I am sched for Tues at 10am, so we will see...
asnatlas
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I am not sure where you read about the BK's not being water tight as this unit I have is made for EXT usage... BK makes INT and EXT units as you prob already know... When looking at the BK I have it looks very well built as it would hold water with out any issues... The cup on top threads on and has an O-ring for a water tight seal between the skimmer body and cup... I know moonpod has had his BK400 EXT up and running for some time now and I have not heard of any leaking issues... The only way I could see this leaking is if the collection cup is not emptied and it would overflow... Thinking about it now... I may make an acrylic box for the BK to sit in, just in case... Thank you for your post mcdonaldtj... Yet another small project to add to my list of many
SERVO
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I saw the Tunze's and then the maxi jets and laughed as well.
You are going to have a bunch of flow. Are you going to have the deco rocks for the 6100's? I love mine. They coraline up real quick and blend right in. The challenge with them is aquascaping so you can easily pull out the pumps for maintainance.
Boy, this whole moving thing is ****ing me off as well. I would pitch a fit. They have a responsibility to move you. Putting you off is no way to come through on their end of the deal. They shouldn't try to "squeeze" you in. I would demand that they come sooner and first thing in the morning *7am* :Hey Marc; do you think you could be up then to have your tank delivered
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The crappy thing, is that you will have all this time on the 1st to start your plumming, but you have to wait because of these jackasses. I'm really ****ed bumned out
So the 28 day project really doesn't count if you don't have a tank!:eek1:
Get the lights done and hung before the tank is placed on the stand. It will be ALOT easier!
You are going to have a bunch of flow. Are you going to have the deco rocks for the 6100's? I love mine. They coraline up real quick and blend right in. The challenge with them is aquascaping so you can easily pull out the pumps for maintainance.
Boy, this whole moving thing is ****ing me off as well. I would pitch a fit. They have a responsibility to move you. Putting you off is no way to come through on their end of the deal. They shouldn't try to "squeeze" you in. I would demand that they come sooner and first thing in the morning *7am* :Hey Marc; do you think you could be up then to have your tank delivered
:The crappy thing, is that you will have all this time on the 1st to start your plumming, but you have to wait because of these jackasses. I'm really ****ed bumned out
So the 28 day project really doesn't count if you don't have a tank!:eek1:
Get the lights done and hung before the tank is placed on the stand. It will be ALOT easier!
Fliger
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I'd really like to see where you read that. You should not believe everything you read, but the thought is quite ironic since I doubt there is a better piece of acrylic machinery in our hobby - as far as seams go. Envision's tanks are probably on par though.
Seriously though, where did you read that???
asnatlas
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6389785#post6389785 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SERVO
I saw the Tunze's and then the maxi jets and laughed as well.
You are going to have a bunch of flow. Are you going to have the deco rocks for the 6100's? I love mine. They coraline up real quick and blend right in. The challenge with them is aquascaping so you can easily pull out the pumps for maintainance.
Boy, this whole moving thing is ****ing me off as well. I would pitch a fit. They have a responsibility to move you. Putting you off is no way to come through on their end of the deal. They shouldn't try to "squeeze" you in. I would demand that they come sooner and first thing in the morning *7am* :Hey Marc; do you think you could be up then to have your tank delivered
The crappy thing, is that you will have all this time on the 1st to start your plumming, but you have to wait because of these jackasses. I'm really ****ed bumned out
So the 28 day project really doesn't count if you don't have a tank!:eek1:
Get the lights done and hung before the tank is placed on the stand. It will be ALOT easier!
LOL, I think you are more P***ED then I am, hehe... I am too nice
I get mad but not often do I take it on others even if itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s their fault...As for the flow, I will not be running all 6 Tunzes at max power 24/7... I will have them set on the controllers to be intermittent and have varying speeds... I will not be placing the Tunzes in deco rocks as the overflow has been designed around hiding all 6 Tunzes... Once I get the tank and get the Tunzes in place I will take some pics and all my words should start making since
As for the 1st (Sunday) I am working, so I wouldn't have much time anyways... With my job, if a holiday falls on a day that I am sched to work then I don't get it off
I end up working about 90% of the holidays, and 12hrs shifts at that... I do get 2.5x pay for working most holidays, so that is nice That is a good idea about the light rack, I was trying to wait until the tank came, but I guess it would be easier to install with the tank out of the way
I may try to get to that before the tank comes...
asnatlas
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Here is a pic that Capt Jer from reeferrocks.com sent me... If I rem right the total of the rocks in the pic was close to 250 - 300lbs... My final order was around 525lbs as I had him add two additional large rocks (about 30lbs each), along with about 180lbs more of med to small rock so that I could have stuff to play around with...
melev
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It doesn't look like much at all, on that deck. Maybe seeing it through saltwater will help. 
Since that is all base rock, I hope you'll be exceedingly patient when it comes to stocking. It can take up to 6 months for the dry/dead/baserock to get to the point of doing any active filtration in your tank.
Since that is all base rock, I hope you'll be exceedingly patient when it comes to stocking. It can take up to 6 months for the dry/dead/baserock to get to the point of doing any active filtration in your tank.
asnatlas
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6395222#post6395222 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
It doesn't look like much at all, on that deck. Maybe seeing it through saltwater will help.
Since that is all base rock, I hope you'll be exceedingly patient when it comes to stocking. It can take up to 6 months for the dry/dead/baserock to get to the point of doing any active filtration in your tank.
That is just the baserock, I have about... 600 - 700lbs of LR that has been cooking... I will have alot of the LR in the 150gal ref and be placing some into the display as well...
My plans once I get the tank are as follows :
1) Complete faux sandbed
2) Get the baserock in
3) Get the BK and other reactor(s) hooked up
4) Get SW in the tank
5) Get the tank up and running with out any live stock or live rock in it...
6) Monitor the system for a wk or so
7) Start placing some LR into the system to seed the tank
8) Monitor the system for a wk or so
9) Once the all of the LR is in the sytem and its been up and running for a few wks with testing showing good results, Place in some Green Chromis
10) Monitor the system for a wk or so
11) Start adding my hardier less exp coral(s)
12) Monitor the system for a wk or so
13) Contuine on adding things and monitoring
It will be awhile before any fish / corals are in the tank as I am going to be taking my time, I want to do it right and do it right the first time... Any new additions that I pick up from here on out will go into quarantine for quite some time... If I pick up any more base or LR I will be cooking it before it enters my main system... It will be hard, but I don't want to contaminate my main system...
If the red pvc is the outline of your tank then I am a little concerned about your ability to scrape the glass. All rocks should be several inches from viewing glass, so not only the blade can get in there but also the rod of the scraper. Corals can grow to be in the way as well. Just a heads-up.
asnatlas
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I take it you are talking about the rock layout pic that Capt Jer sent me ?? He was just trying to get the rocks to look as close to the drawing that I had made up... The drawing I made is very ruff, when I go to actually place the rock into the tank I will have quite a bit of room between the rock and any glass...
melev
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Well, I would use sand. But that is just me, and I'm <b>not</b> trying to be controversial here. I think once it is up and running with baserock and saltwater, I'd seed it with something - even if that is just a few sponges from the current set up to get bacteria breeding.
I've seen threads on faux sandbeds, and remember one specifically that collapsed and cracked out the base of the tank. Since your tank is acrylic, I know it will be fully supported so that shouldn't be an issue.
If you have cooked LR ready to add, I would add it within mere days of getting it running instead of waiting a week at a time.
I've seen threads on faux sandbeds, and remember one specifically that collapsed and cracked out the base of the tank. Since your tank is acrylic, I know it will be fully supported so that shouldn't be an issue.
If you have cooked LR ready to add, I would add it within mere days of getting it running instead of waiting a week at a time.
asnatlas
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6395734#post6395734 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Well, I would use sand. But that is just me, and I'm <b>not</b> trying to be controversial here. I think once it is up and running with baserock and saltwater, I'd seed it with something - even if that is just a few sponges from the current set up to get bacteria breeding.
I've seen threads on faux sandbeds, and remember one specifically that collapsed and cracked out the base of the tank. Since your tank is acrylic, I know it will be fully supported so that shouldn't be an issue.
If you have cooked LR ready to add, I would add it within mere days of getting it running instead of waiting a week at a time.
So I should add some LR to the display as soon as I have the SW to the right SG and temp ??
LOL, I think you are getting some people tanks mixed up
My tank is 3/4 low iron glass And the faux sand bed would be on top of HDPE (Starboard)...With the LR, I just wanted to make sure that the system is ready and stable before I add it as I don't want to kill it... So maybe add a little as soon as I get the SW in and then wait a few days to make sure everything is ok, then just add the rest ??
Again thank you for your reply; I am not going to jump on anyone for any comments in this thread... If you see a problem with something or think you have a better way please do tell... I am always open for new things
melev
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I thought you got an acrylic tank from Envisions for some reason. I didn't realize it is all glass. Is your stand covered with a solid piece of plywood then? I don't remember seeing images of the future location in some time. I do remember MDF for some reason, if it was this thread - most of us stated to switch it out with something more water resistant.
Once you have the system up and running with no leaks or drips, I'd start adding the salt to the water. This is going to be all RO/DI water, right? Did you happen to buy a Merlin unit by Air Water & Ice? That thing makes 750g per day. http://rowatersystems.com/catalog/ge_merlin_ro_system_4285807.htm
If all you have is water, starboard and faux sandbed, mixing the salt in the system will be a breeze. Then you could add your dry rock, although it would displace some of the water.... I don't know. I hate waste, but it would be so nice to mix the salt in the system before the rock is put in the tank.
After you've observed it for 24 hours, add some bacteria, and then perhaps if the water parameters look good the next day, start putting your LR in the system. Obviously temperature & salinity need to be good before you add the LR to the tank.
I wouldn't even use the lights until the LR is put in the tank.
Once you have the system up and running with no leaks or drips, I'd start adding the salt to the water. This is going to be all RO/DI water, right? Did you happen to buy a Merlin unit by Air Water & Ice? That thing makes 750g per day. http://rowatersystems.com/catalog/ge_merlin_ro_system_4285807.htm
If all you have is water, starboard and faux sandbed, mixing the salt in the system will be a breeze. Then you could add your dry rock, although it would displace some of the water.... I don't know. I hate waste, but it would be so nice to mix the salt in the system before the rock is put in the tank.
After you've observed it for 24 hours, add some bacteria, and then perhaps if the water parameters look good the next day, start putting your LR in the system. Obviously temperature & salinity need to be good before you add the LR to the tank.
I wouldn't even use the lights until the LR is put in the tank.
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