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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6399321#post6399321 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by charlesjordanjr
hdtvguy, did that happen to your tank because the faux sandbed expanded as it dried?
-Chuck

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6400074#post6400074 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hdtvguy
Yes it was from the epoxy on the glass.

hdtvguy, if I remember right it didn't break until you poured in some water right ?? I am not saying that the epoxy on the glass didn't cause the cracking, I am just pointing out that it was not until water was placed into tank that it cracked...
 
I don't believe duct tape is water proof at all. Basically, you seem to be covering the MDF with a gigantic bandaid, which doesn't seem like a good solution to me. Painting it repeatedly, and especially around the edges - that is what will do the most good in prevention. You'll probably need to repaint annually to keep it sealed against moisture.
 
How did you secure that MDF down? it seems like a large task, but think about it. Is the tank worth the effort? i mean its not a cheap tank, i would think it would be better to do it right then have 600 gallons of water on the floor.

its work, but its for the better. rip that MDF out and put some good old plywood down and seal that up.

Like melev said it looks like a band-aid. and you know what happens to band-aids when they are in contact with water espically salt water? they come off easy.......

Nick
 
long thread, might have missed a part, but there was a thread in the general reef forum about someone that was having a real hard time with his faux sandbed.

not to say it was or wasnt other factors, I dont know. but to my knowledge the whole faux sandbed is still very untested long term. infact that was the first thread I saw either way of a long term faux sand bed. it was coated in green algea.

I believe he blamed the rough finish for trapping solids and wastes from keeping mixed.

just a thought, I know your bed would be removable, but that would be a nightmare to do on a tank the size of yours. maybe some of the other faux bed guys could chime in. it would really be nice to hear more experiences than just that one.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6400783#post6400783 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
I don't believe duct tape is water proof at all. Basically, you seem to be covering the MDF with a gigantic bandaid, which doesn't seem like a good solution to me. Painting it repeatedly, and especially around the edges - that is what will do the most good in prevention. You'll probably need to repaint annually to keep it sealed against moisture.

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6400985#post6400985 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nbd13
How did you secure that MDF down? it seems like a large task, but think about it. Is the tank worth the effort? i mean its not a cheap tank, i would think it would be better to do it right then have 600 gallons of water on the floor.

its work, but its for the better. rip that MDF out and put some good old plywood down and seal that up.

Like melev said it looks like a band-aid. and you know what happens to band-aids when they are in contact with water espically salt water? they come off easy.......

Nick

The whole stand is put together with alot of wood glue and screws, I could prob get the MDF off but it would not be easy and prob very messy. I build most of the stand in the basement as it prob weights close to 400lbs if not more (guessing)...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6400992#post6400992 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by areze
long thread, might have missed a part, but there was a thread in the general reef forum about someone that was having a real hard time with his faux sandbed.

not to say it was or wasnt other factors, I dont know. but to my knowledge the whole faux sandbed is still very untested long term. infact that was the first thread I saw either way of a long term faux sand bed. it was coated in green algea.

I believe he blamed the rough finish for trapping solids and wastes from keeping mixed.

just a thought, I know your bed would be removable, but that would be a nightmare to do on a tank the size of yours. maybe some of the other faux bed guys could chime in. it would really be nice to hear more experiences than just that one.

You bring up a good point with your post... This scares me because I have read about people doing a faux sand bed and months down the road it is covered with algae... With the flow from the Tunzes I am scared even with a SSB I will have a sand storm...

With the way the overflow is designed I can't have a DSB as I have openings at the bottom of the Tunze columns to keep water in there at all times because I didn't think overflowing the water in would work as the Tunzes would pump out the water faster then it would fall in...

I love the faux idea because I can get the sand bed look with any sand storms and I can vacuum out any debris without stirring a sand bed...
 
Yeah, it is a problem indeed... vaccuming might be a major hassle through trying to get around the rocks and such. maybe a faux sand bed with a ssb over it? if it blows through in spots it wont be bare.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6401643#post6401643 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by areze
Yeah, it is a problem indeed... vaccuming might be a major hassle through trying to get around the rocks and such. maybe a faux sand bed with a ssb over it? if it blows through in spots it wont be bare.

Hmm there is an idea I didn't think about... I mean I know people have placed SSB over their faux due to problems with algae and what not... But I didn't think about doing it from the start so that any spots that the SSB may not cover due to flow would kinda blend in... Thanks for the idea, need to ponder somethingââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s... I would really like to have sand in the tank as I love the look, I just really like the idea of maintenance on faux...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6400308#post6400308 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by asnatlas

Do you have anything covering your MDF top ??


Sorry my stand was skinned in MDF Board and painted. The top is plywood 1/2". I have 1" foam under the tank.


Yes the tank cracked when I put water in it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6411069#post6411069 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tomasz
Tank should be at the house in two hours.

LOL, itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s a few min after 10am now... Waiting very excitedly...
 
Just read through this thread, wow.

In fact...WOW! Equipment porn at it finest. Clear pix of the BubbleKing with close up shot of the Dragon pump...mmmm...nice...

Only 4 MH's over a system this size?

Anyway, should be amazing, can't wait for progress pix!
 
hopefully you are setting the tank up on the stand about now.. and looking at all the nice glass and getting ready to post more pictures.... YEA
 
(*#&$(*#@&$(*#&$ OMFG.......... If it's not one thing it's always another... I got a call around 3:30pm from the movers saying that they don't have the equ to move this thing... )*&#@$)(*#&$)(*#&$(*#@&$................... When calling around to diff movers before I ordered the tank I spoke with Custom Movers and they stated moves like this were their specialty and that as long as it could fit then they could do it... Well I know it will fit... The reason I went with All American Moving is because they were less then 200.00 insured... The quote I for from Custom Movers was 400ish+ :( I have no other choice but to pay 2.5x more now unless I want to setup a reef on the loading dock where the tank sits right now :rolleye1:

Going to call Custom Movers and see what they say... Will prob be yet another wk at least...
 
Man O' man, so sorry to hear Shawn. That just flat out sucks. I can't imagine how you must be feeling.
 
Dang, whatever happened to the 'break you back' moving styles of yesteryear? Who needs equipment when you could hire some big weight lifter looking to make a few bucks...

Sorry to hear about your delay...hopefully you'll get things worked out soon enough.
 
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