a better Ich treatment?

Salty Bginners

Salty Bginners

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After reading many diffrent opinions in magizines and listening to ppl talk about the pros and cons of diffrent ich treatments i have narrowed the "best" down to these 3. 1. Garlic extract 2. OTC chemical remidies with copper in them (IE. No Sick Fish Ich treatment) or 3. Hyposalinity.
And i was wondering where you at RC think on this issue. I am simply asking which you think is the best method.
 
Garlic didn't do anything for me. Ich came back strong and nuke my tank. Hypo and copper works. I preffer hypo
 
Even those of us who swear by garlic {I recommend Formula One Sinking Pellets as a standard, to prevent outbreaks in the first place] will readily say---particularly if it's a species that's highly susceptible to ich [tang, clown, angel, rabbit] and you can catch it and all its similar tankmates---by all means do, and use copper or hypo. Certain species just don't recover as readily as others, and need medication.

I just don't put treatments into my display tank: the only exception would be Maracyn, and it doesn't work on ich.
 
Still feed the fish with food soacked in garlic, is good for them and they love it! :) and you can choose the treatment.
 
The ONLY proven cures are Hypo and copper..I used Hypo recently for a couple of new Tangs...I don't mess around with 'reef safe' products and garlic does not cure ich:)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7565589#post7565589 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Salty Bginners
so i have hypo 2 garlic 1 and copper 1 any 1 else want to contribute?
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To my knowledge there is not a single study that says garlic is an effective medication for ich. The one study that some use to support the garlic cure actually says the opposite of what most think. I have no doubt that garlic can stimulate appetite and might be healthy for the fish but at best that's an indirect method which relies on the fish's own immune system to fend off a parasite. There are a whole host of "chicken soup" methods for keeping fish healthy and all of them are generally good at improving health .. unfortunately, all of them are considered inconsistent and largely ineffective when treating ich. If you want to feed your fish a health supplement I suspect there are alot of them out there that smell alot better than garlic .. selcon for one.

If you want to eliminate ich - then QT .. treat with one of the known consistently effective methods (hypo, copper, transfer method) and leave your ST without fish for enough time for the ich within that tank to naturally die off.
 
Interesting I never heard of the garlic treatment being explained like that. BTW what is the "transfer method" and whats a selcon? Ty for the very informative post Kevin2000 i appreate it.
 
The transfer method (aka bucket method) requires an aquarist to transfer the fish from one QT tank (or container/bucket) to another every three days for a total of 3-4 transfers. After each transfer the old QT/container is sterilized and ready for reuse. This method is based on the natural ich cycle where ich tend to stay on the fish for no longer than a week and once they fall off they take anywhere from a few days to a month to hatch new ich. This is an old method that works .. the downside of this method is that handling the fish is stressful and if your ich infested fish came from your ST accelerating the treatment of ich doesn't really do much since you still need to wait 5-6 weeks for the ST to cure itself (assuming its fishless).

Selcon is just a popular food additive/booster which is loaded with fatty acids , vitamin C etc.
http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_additives_american_marine.asp?CartId=
 
In my experience, garlic has had perhaps a slight effect on internal maladies of the helminthic kind. I've had good success feeding otherwise inpalatable medicated foods soaked in garlic oil, I assume because of it's stinkiness. Garlic is used as a 'fish attractant!' in several dozen fishing lures.
 
Some of you help me on the other posts with the QT I need to know looking here which brand of copper you all are talking about?
I see ones in the stores said it better them regular copper I like to know also which test kits do you use for copper levels testing!
 
There are a variety of copper products on the market ... cupramine copper made by Seachem is considered one of the least harsh copper products and the one that I keep in my fish medicine chest. As far as test kits goes .. not all test kits will accurately measure every copper so you need to get a test kit that will work with whatever copper product your choosing. With cupramine I would purchase one of the newer salifert copper test kits (the older salifert test kits did not accurate measure cupramine) ... red sea copper test kits will work with Cupramine but the "top end" of that test kit is lower than the recommended dose for Cupramine so you need to dilute your sample by adding 1/2 distilled/ro water and then measure and multiply the results by 2. Seachems own copper test kit should work .. but apparently they had a quality control issue on those test kits some time back and I am unsure whether they "recalled" the bad batch.

http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/cupramine.html
 
I think I'm going to post the same thing on everyones posts tonight aquarium pharmaceuticals makes melafix and pimafix the best I have found
 
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