iSeeMax101
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Picked these guys up today. Was sold as "Chocolate ocellaris". Would just like to verify. Thoughts?
A little help to verify clowns "name/breed"
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rickztahone
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Whenever you are in doubt, look here:
http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/307666-clownfish-species-variants-and-classification/
http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/307666-clownfish-species-variants-and-classification/
iSeeMax101
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I thought they were perculas also, well, that's what the tank said that was holding them. But when it was time to PAY for the fish, all of a sudden.... "Oops... I don't know what these are but they don't look like Percs, I'm not really sure what they are but let me search online. These fish must have been labeled wrong because these look like "Chocolate ocellaris clowns" and the price is higher than what is labeled."
Great...
Great...
iSeeMax101
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Not saying that the store is wrong. Maybe they were in the wrong spot. Maybe I shouldn't be on the fence about it but I guess I would just like to know that I can trust the LFS. Maybe these are Chocolate O's. I can't seem to find them in the link but I found this. Maybe they are Mocha?
http://www.seaandreef.com/marine-ornamental-fish/clownfish/maine-mocha
http://www.seaandreef.com/marine-ornamental-fish/clownfish/maine-mocha
ItsTheNano
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mocha ocellaris & pretty similar in price to regular perculas from what I have seen around.
iSeeMax101
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The price difference to what I paid was about $8 per fish. Not a huge jump. It's just the possible Bait and Switch that is standing out in my head I think lol
iSeeMax101
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Just wanted to conclude my vent and leave my review for Valencia Pet
Not trying to trash talk the store but not offering fair prices and taking advantage of a consumer / customer is pretty low. This happens to be the same store that sold me a pair of percula clowns in a holding tank marked Percula Clowns and then hit me with the bait and switch the moment they saw that I was actually really interested in the fish...
"Wait, all of these clowns (18-20) in this area I don't think are Percula. They don't look like it. I'm not sure what they are, let me google it... Oh these are Darwins... They are $55 each."
At that time I goggled Darwin clowns on my phone and showed him the photos and told him that none of these clowns (18-20 clowns) look nothing like Darwin clowns and he must be mistaken.
His reply (Eric) "Someone will be here soon that can help verify the actual species and label for you." (Eric sends his sister a text, sister arrives at store in about 5 mins after lunch is over)
I explain to the sister how I'm interested in buying the clowns and would like them bagged up but apparently there seems to be an issue with them being mislabeled? She then explains how she is the one that works the salt water area and Eric normally does everything else so she should be able to help clear the issue up. "Well, I don't know what these are but I don't think these are Percula clowns" she states.
Like, you are the ones that go to the wholesale for the fish and you don't know if you had to pay a little over premium for "Special ""clowns"" because they are not regular Percs? At this time she gets on her computer and starts browsing the net to see what they "might be" comes back and says that the (all 18-20 fish) appear to be "Chocolate ocellaris clowns" and says they are $39 each but she will give them to me for $8 each over the original asking price since I have a coupon.
In retrospect, I paid $16 more after the bait and switch for a couple clowns. I went back yesterday to see if the tanks have been relabeled "chocolate ocellaris $39" and found that the labels have not been altered. I asked a different guy that wasn't there during my original purchase how much the clowns were and if he knew their species.... "Those are all Percula clowns... The price is listed here (Points to the blue painters tape, it's been 5 days since my purchase... Why has no one changed the label on these "chocolate clowns?)
Not trying to trash talk the store but not offering fair prices and taking advantage of a consumer / customer is pretty low. This happens to be the same store that sold me a pair of percula clowns in a holding tank marked Percula Clowns and then hit me with the bait and switch the moment they saw that I was actually really interested in the fish...
"Wait, all of these clowns (18-20) in this area I don't think are Percula. They don't look like it. I'm not sure what they are, let me google it... Oh these are Darwins... They are $55 each."
At that time I goggled Darwin clowns on my phone and showed him the photos and told him that none of these clowns (18-20 clowns) look nothing like Darwin clowns and he must be mistaken.
His reply (Eric) "Someone will be here soon that can help verify the actual species and label for you." (Eric sends his sister a text, sister arrives at store in about 5 mins after lunch is over)
I explain to the sister how I'm interested in buying the clowns and would like them bagged up but apparently there seems to be an issue with them being mislabeled? She then explains how she is the one that works the salt water area and Eric normally does everything else so she should be able to help clear the issue up. "Well, I don't know what these are but I don't think these are Percula clowns" she states.
Like, you are the ones that go to the wholesale for the fish and you don't know if you had to pay a little over premium for "Special ""clowns"" because they are not regular Percs? At this time she gets on her computer and starts browsing the net to see what they "might be" comes back and says that the (all 18-20 fish) appear to be "Chocolate ocellaris clowns" and says they are $39 each but she will give them to me for $8 each over the original asking price since I have a coupon.
In retrospect, I paid $16 more after the bait and switch for a couple clowns. I went back yesterday to see if the tanks have been relabeled "chocolate ocellaris $39" and found that the labels have not been altered. I asked a different guy that wasn't there during my original purchase how much the clowns were and if he knew their species.... "Those are all Percula clowns... The price is listed here (Points to the blue painters tape, it's been 5 days since my purchase... Why has no one changed the label on these "chocolate clowns?)
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Hopefully it helps someone in the future, but the way I look at coral (and fishes as well, in this rare case) is that if it doesn't have lineage, it's whatever the species is, and that is that. No "chocolate mocha snowstorm bullethole naked yellow chocolate chip" BS. If you want to impress me and charge me more, show me the lineage, the aquaculture facility, tell me about them, how their business practices are better, how they raise and breed for health, etc. Same with corals, need to know who you got it from, and original source.
This is why I hate when people post "is this coral/clown this named one". No. It isn't, unless it came with paperwork/papertrail, then you would know and wouldn't be asking. It's just something that looks like something else. Pay what you want, but it isn't the real deal.
Why pay the same price for a real signed baseball card with paperwork and one that the card shop owner signed that looks the same but has no paperwork?
This is why I hate when people post "is this coral/clown this named one". No. It isn't, unless it came with paperwork/papertrail, then you would know and wouldn't be asking. It's just something that looks like something else. Pay what you want, but it isn't the real deal.
Why pay the same price for a real signed baseball card with paperwork and one that the card shop owner signed that looks the same but has no paperwork?
I'm siding with CJ based on eye color...
http://www.ocellarisclownfish.com/difference-between-ocellaris-and-percula-clownfish/
http://www.ocellarisclownfish.com/difference-between-ocellaris-and-percula-clownfish/
