A Low Country Reef Tank....one more final upgrade

I'm not a big fan of internal overflow boxes. I think they are too limiting. You end up forced to use junk durso standpipes and the like.

You don't need to make a complicated built-on overflow system. You can just have the tank made plain and then drill a pair of holes for 2" bulkheads on the back and make an internal & external overflow box held on with the bulkheads. Dimensioning the box out correctly to handle your flow is a simple calculation, and in case you decide say that you want the internal overflow box to have teeth or not have teeth, this is a simple change (in fact, you can make an adjustable fence that screws on to the weir with thumbscrews, etc, easy peasy and have it both ways)

It is really simple when you do it that way. No messing with cutting a weir on the back of the tank and then needing to re-inforce it with the external box, though you can do that too, but drilling a few holes does literally nothing to the integrity of the tank.

You can have a coast-to-coast overflow along the entire back of the tank (all 8 feet) and it would only stand off 2" off the back and be about 7" deep from the top of the water.

Then, you can place the external overflow box anywhere you want, and it does not have to also be 8' wide, it really only needs to be 2 or 3 feet wide, will stick off about 6" off the back of the tank, and be about 9" or so deep. So you can offset that to one side, and you don't need to get someone thin and gangly to reach in there for you. If you do that, of course, the opposite end of the overflow box will need some support, so you just drill another hole for an additional bulkhead at that end and just cap that one off.
 
so far the layout is pretty simple"¦..96x36x24. I haven't decided on the location for all of the closed loop holes yet and will do that once I am decided on the overflow location. The only way I would do a bean overflow would be to put the overflow externally on one of the 36" sides of the tank. I spoke with James at Envision today and he suggested just doing two internal overflows that will be 12" from the sides. So we pretty much have a clean palate to work with here.

On my 450g acrylic DT, I have 2 rear corner internal overflows, that are 24"x6"x6" (they don't go to the bottom of the tank) So with the 2 side panels, that equals 5' of overflow... I have a black plastic 'gutter guard' on it and have not had any fish/snail/crabs enter the overflow in 3 years. Each box has 3 'bean animal' style drains that exit thru the back wall
As for the CL... You can easily drill the holes after the tank is built and delivered
 
I'm not a big fan of internal overflow boxes. I think they are too limiting. You end up forced to use junk durso standpipes and the like.

You don't need to make a complicated built-on overflow system. You can just have the tank made plain and then drill a pair of holes for 2" bulkheads on the back and make an internal & external overflow box held on with the bulkheads. Dimensioning the box out correctly to handle your flow is a simple calculation, and in case you decide say that you want the internal overflow box to have teeth or not have teeth, this is a simple change (in fact, you can make an adjustable fence that screws on to the weir with thumbscrews, etc, easy peasy and have it both ways)

It is really simple when you do it that way. No messing with cutting a weir on the back of the tank and then needing to re-inforce it with the external box, though you can do that too, but drilling a few holes does literally nothing to the integrity of the tank.

You can have a coast-to-coast overflow along the entire back of the tank (all 8 feet) and it would only stand off 2" off the back and be about 7" deep from the top of the water.

Then, you can place the external overflow box anywhere you want, and it does not have to also be 8' wide, it really only needs to be 2 or 3 feet wide, will stick off about 6" off the back of the tank, and be about 9" or so deep. So you can offset that to one side, and you don't need to get someone thin and gangly to reach in there for you. If you do that, of course, the opposite end of the overflow box will need some support, so you just drill another hole for an additional bulkhead at that end and just cap that one off.

Can I send you a plane ticket?????? I know the size of the overflow only moves the tank out by another 6" but Im pushing the envelope already with the 36" width. I have to chew on this a little.
 
On my 450g acrylic DT, I have 2 rear corner internal overflows, that are 24"x6"x6" (they don't go to the bottom of the tank) So with the 2 side panels, that equals 5' of overflow... I have a black plastic 'gutter guard' on it and have not had any fish/snail/crabs enter the overflow in 3 years. Each box has 3 'bean animal' style drains that exit thru the back wall
As for the CL... You can easily drill the holes after the tank is built and delivered

Can you post a picture of your overflows?
 
Can I send you a plane ticket?????? I know the size of the overflow only moves the tank out by another 6" but Im pushing the envelope already with the 36" width. I have to chew on this a little.

Include one for the wife and sure, we'll come and visit. It's frickin COLD up here!
 
I'm with Bud, I'd go with external. Having the internal box is just taking away real estate and the cleaniness of the tank. If I was having a tank built, no question on external box!
 
Don't try and do. Bean animal drain through the bottom of the tank, I tried with my 450g and result was not great. Yea, the drain worked but the water level in the box was low enough with all the plumbing a herbie would quieter in the long run. External would be nice, I was at 36" width also and could not go any wider.
 
Actually you could do a beananimal drain through the bottom of the tank. But it would have to be done right, nothing really tricky about it. You could still do the coast-to-coast type of weir overflow also and it would just feed sideways from there to the overflow box. But that would take up a pretty big chunk of space in one corner, or at least the space of 2 trapezoids 'merged' together.
 
A couple internal overflows in a tank this size hardly detracts from the aesthetics. I'm sure it will look great no matter what you choose.
 
That is true. I forget this tank is huge. Could do a bean inside the overflow if the returns are not via the overflow box
 
Hey Steve, I noticed that when you had decided to go acrylic you mentioned it was between Envision and Midwest Custom Aquarium. Looks like you decided on Envision?.
I''m taking delivery on a 96X24X30 with 2 external (15wX5X8h) overflows situated near each end (back wall) tomorrow that was built by Midwest Custom. If your interested I can send and/or post some pics of my tank just in case your still on the fence or would like to see the external overflows.
 
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Hey Steve, I noticed that when you had decided to go acrylic you mentioned it was between Envision and Midwest Custom Aquarium. Looks like you decided on Envision?.
I''m taking delivery on a 96X24X30 with 2 external 15" overflows situated near each end (back wall) tomorrow that was built by Midwest Custom. If your interested I can send and/or post some pics of my tank just in case your still on the fence or would like to see the external overflows.

That would be great! please post the pictures!
 
My tank is smaller steve but I do have an internal overflow. I wanted an external overflow but due to bracing required it would have taken up almost as much space. I love my tank and the overflow on it. On my last tank hi I had it drilled as Floyd said then out bulkheads on it and make a coast to coast. Took up hardly no real estate and looked great too. Gave me a ton of surface skimming

Corey
 
I will do that Steve. I see the biggest difference is your tank is 36" deep compared to mine being only 24". I went with externals because I choose height over width (second guessing that choice a little now) and wanted as much internal space as possible. The locations of the externals will make any maintenance easy for me as they will be located starting 6" from the ends. This will be my first tank with externals so I'm hoping I'll like them as much as I think I will.

Darryl
 

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Tank has been ordered

Tank has been ordered

I placed my order for the tank with James @ Envision Acrylics. He won't start building the tank until the end of January since I can't take delivery of it until early March. As much as I would love to go with an external overflow, I have already pushed the envelope with the 36" wide tank and I don't want to reduce the tank width to 30". So I will go with two internal overflows that will be set in 12" from each side. Thank you everyone who provided some input and pictures.
 
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