A Splash of Color

Bulent I think I may have purchased a frag of that exact A.Echinata from Mark a couple of weeks ago (it was £25 for a 2" frag, makes you sick that the Aussies are paying less than that for colonies:spin3:).

Really interesting reading Andrew's thoughts on the health and placement. Mine is already showing a bit of colour in the body and polyp extension is good, in fact, really good for my tank (bloody flame angel) and the tips are a stunning blue.

I'll be very interest to see how yours develops as it will be the benchmark for me

The "œfrag" of A.Aspera I got from you has settled in really well (thanks again for that:beer:)

Thanks Matthew. I will use the price you paid for the echinata frag as my benchmark. I hope that Mark will offer me a similar size frag or a little larger when I visit him this weekend.

Good polyp being subjective of course, thanks to a flame angel few of my acros show during the day (fortunately he's not bothered recent additions), I consider any extension as good ;)

Tank : 30"x 30" x 20" deep

Ca : 400
Mg : 1300
Alk : 7
Po4 : 0.01
No3 : 1 - 2
Salinity : 1.025
Temp : 24c

Feeding is heavy (four times daily) as is skimming.

I also dose Aquaforest Coral A, B (Half Dose), E (Half Dose), V & Coral Food (3 Times Per week). I started using Aquaforest before my fish stocks were up and PO4/No3 were undetectable and was sufficiently convinced to continue.

I run quite a short photo period 9 hours of 4 25w T5 & 3 hours 250w 14k MH

Matthew

Andrew, when Matthew came to my house a few weeks ago to pick up an Acropora aspera "frag" (4" X 5" X 4"), I suggested to him that changing his BLV 14K MH bulb (250W) to 20000K Radium may transform the colour of his corals. I had your tank in mind of course as THE perfect example :twitch:.

Andrew, do you target wet skimmate, dry skimmate or something in between? My skimmer (Deltec SC 1350) produces very dry skimmate and it takes for the skimmer cup to fill up. I blame Sahin for this as he questioned the colour of my skimmate when I first set up my skimmer as it was quite light tea colour :mixed:.

PS. I like the look of that friendly and domesticated dingo.
 
Andrew,
what is your current water parameters?
Seem like it is stable nutrients with just seachem matrix.
I wonder if I can use just 7 litres of sera siporax mini to reduce my nutrients consistently?
Currently running AIO bio pellets - 300ml worth in a bio pellets reactor.
No3 always dropping to 2.5ppm and it doesn't go lower.
Have to dose potassium phosphate to a tune of 0.03ppm on dosing pump daily to maintain at 0.04ppm.
 
Good polyp being subjective of course, thanks to a flame angel few of my acros show during the day (fortunately he’s not bothered recent additions), I consider any extension as good ;)

Tank : 30”x 30” x 20” deep

Ca : 400
Mg : 1300
Alk : 7
Po4 : 0.01
No3 : 1 - 2
Salinity : 1.025
Temp : 24c

Feeding is heavy (four times daily) as is skimming.

I also dose Aquaforest Coral A, B (Half Dose), E (Half Dose), V & Coral Food (3 Times Per week). I started using Aquaforest before my fish stocks were up and PO4/No3 were undetectable and was sufficiently convinced to continue.

I run quite a short photo period 9 hours of 4 25w T5 & 3 hours 250w 14k MH

Matthew

Hey Matthew, your parameters are why the wild echi has PE already, keeping close to NSW levels is a good move if you intend to add recently collected wild and or mari pieces on a regular basis. :)
Wild acros do not turn brown or sulk for ages unless you put them in water that immediately places further stress on top of the collection and transportation trauma.
I really want some of you to think about the fact that spiking your water from say 7 to something like 9 or even 10 alk in 10 mins would most likely result in acro carnage. Taking an acro frag out of a bag of 7 alk water and placing it into 9 alk water is exactly the same thing. If you spiked the alk over 3 hours to reach the high reading you would still see all hell break loose so why on earth does anyone think dripping different tank water into a bucket with the frag over a couple of hours will somehow soften the blow.

Acros in good condition like the two in Bulent's pics do not turn brown or sulk for months unless you make them do so by stressing them with conditions that freak them out. :hammer:
When acros slime they are crying............... don't make your acros cry people !

Andrew, when Matthew came to my house a few weeks ago to pick up an Acropora aspera "frag" (4" X 5" X 4"), I suggested to him that changing his BLV 14K MH bulb (250W) to 20000K Radium may transform the colour of his corals. I had your tank in mind of course as THE perfect example :twitch:.

Andrew, do you target wet skimmate, dry skimmate or something in between? My skimmer (Deltec SC 1350) produces very dry skimmate and it takes for the skimmer cup to fill up. I blame Sahin for this as he questioned the colour of my skimmate when I first set up my skimmer as it was quite light tea colour :mixed:.

PS. I like the look of that friendly and domesticated dingo.

My first 4x2x2 had 2 x 250W BLV's over it Bulent. At the time, about 17 years ago now they were $190- each bulb from memory. After about 6 months i saw a Radium tank in person and promptly ditched the BLV's for 2 x 250W Radiums that were $60- each. I have never had any other bulb as my primary light source since................. :)

17 years later and no one has bested that bulb still. If they had it would be lighting my tank............. ;)

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My skimmate is wet. About as clear as black tea is to look through. While i think of it, if your skimmate looks fine but has almost no bad sulphur smell but more of a stagnant pond stink - check your salinity because that's what happened ages ago when my salinity was over 1.028, from memory that was Sahin's fault.......
Anyway, i run my deltec 1455 in 24omm of water with the screw open enough to keep the water level in the riser just below the white bit on top of the clear reaction chamber. I have the air valve closed by about 10 % and it is very reactive this way compared to running it in less water depth. I mean it responds quickly to any extra crap in the water and pulls it fast rather than not showing a change in skimmate production after a putty session or sliming acros etc. I have always found that the dryer i ran the skimmer the slower it responded when i really really wanted it to lol. That's just my experience though Bulent. :wave:

Andrew,
what is your current water parameters?
Seem like it is stable nutrients with just seachem matrix.
I wonder if I can use just 7 litres of sera siporax mini to reduce my nutrients consistently?
Currently running AIO bio pellets - 300ml worth in a bio pellets reactor.
No3 always dropping to 2.5ppm and it doesn't go lower.
Have to dose potassium phosphate to a tune of 0.03ppm on dosing pump daily to maintain at 0.04ppm.

Hey Kevin,

Alk - 7.0 Salifert
Cal - 400 Salifert
Mg - 1320 Salifert
K - 410 Salifert
SG - 1.0260 refractometer calibrated with standard solution.
Nitrate - 2.0 Salifert
Phos - 0.050 Elos high res

I would add the siporax and do nothing else for at least 2 months as it will do bugger all until around the 75-90 day mark from my experience so don't rely on it for much help at all until a few months have passed. As soon as you start having trouble keeping nitrates detectable you start weaning the tank off the pellets as the bacteria population increases in your system. I have doubled my daily feeding amount in the last three weeks or so since the nutrients started bottoming out gradually. I'm still waiting to see what the phos is going to do but the tank is basically spotless algae.cyano etc wise yet the glass needs cleaning within 5-6 hours of the last. If i don't clean it daily i can see that wavy shimmer you pick up when the algae is just long enough to sway in the current - i'm talking pain in the bum fast growing glass algae guys !.
Since the acros are all happy campers i will just wait for the rest of the matrix to seed with sufficient bacteria levels to make it useful. Just before i doubled the food the glass was clean for 2 full days so it should pull back in time. From observation in my system, high phos compared to nitrates equals slower growth but good colors. The other way around results in drab colors but growth seems fine. Both too high and no growth and high zoa populations. Both too low and washed out colors with slow growth.
That's just my very general guide to what i see in my own tanks with differing nutrient levels while other parameters remain stable. :)

The mother of pearl white at the base of that acro is impossible to photograph with my phone camera, when i stare it it through the camera zoomed in it makes my eyes water lol. I had it all over the acro tissue when it was in the 65 gal with the marbled blue pigment throughout. That was for about a three week period and then it suddenly lost the mother of pearl white glow and i haven't been able to get it back since..........until quite recently when it started returning from the base out. You can see the pigment change well under way in the pic i hope.

If my nitrates rise above about 5 i see it immediately in my white skins like the other acros in the pic. They start to get a tinge of color same as the corallites on the branches which takes away the spectacular contast you want. The phos doesn't appear to have the same effect as i mentioned earlier.
 
I have a bottle of zeovit zeobak in my fridge.
I use that to re seed my sump marine pure every week. Only use 1 drop of the liquid. Lol
I have no worries building up the bacteria up quickly with the siporax if needed.
 
Andrew....
Truth: Each morning, as a very lucky man, my lady brings me a beautiful cup or rich organic coffee and sets it by the computer mate:) Side note, very lucky guy! Anyway, my point is that when I start my day, the SPS forum is before the news, before any social media, before email, really 1st things first mate... I have to say that I look forward to many threads, but yours happens to top choice. The fun, excitement, insight, knowledge, humor, and well those color pics, are my reasons. Thanks Biggles, you are appreciated here!
 
More interesting reading, thanks. I have agree about NSW levels my first tank was run intentionally high at 10+ dkh (both Kalk & Calc Reactors) the thinking that came along with ULNS method was a god send for me and my tank.

Re bulbs, Bulent has already got me thinking even though I have a spare BLV so am good for at least another 12 months but I have to say I don't overly enjoy the blue look so am nervous about going to 20k. For example the vid in your post from 01/17/16 is on the boarder of my preferences, the picture above which doesn't pick up the blue as much, however is perfect (I assume both are under the 20k radiums).

Matt
 
I have a bottle of zeovit zeobak in my fridge.
I use that to re seed my sump marine pure every week. Only use 1 drop of the liquid. Lol
I have no worries building up the bacteria up quickly with the siporax if needed.

Well why don't you chuck that media in your water Kevin and seed the you know what out of it !

Andrew....
Truth: Each morning, as a very lucky man, my lady brings me a beautiful cup or rich organic coffee and sets it by the computer mate:) Side note, very lucky guy! Anyway, my point is that when I start my day, the SPS forum is before the news, before any social media, before email, really 1st things first mate... I have to say that I look forward to many threads, but yours happens to top choice. The fun, excitement, insight, knowledge, humor, and well those color pics, are my reasons. Thanks Biggles, you are appreciated here!

That's the nicest thing to read from a mate, thanks for putting a very big smile on my dial Perry :)

Limited Edition Acropora - WYSIWYG

' Perry's Passion '

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More interesting reading, thanks. I have agree about NSW levels my first tank was run intentionally high at 10+ dkh (both Kalk & Calc Reactors) the thinking that came along with ULNS method was a god send for me and my tank.

Re bulbs, Bulent has already got me thinking even though I have a spare BLV so am good for at least another 12 months but I have to say I don’t overly enjoy the blue look so am nervous about going to 20k. For example the vid in your post from 01/17/16 is on the boarder of my preferences, the picture above which doesn’t pick up the blue as much, however is perfect (I assume both are under the 20k radiums).

Matt

Hey Matt, the tank looks about half as blue as the video shows in real life. It is a very crisp white with some magic fairy dust blue thrown in...... ;)
 
That is a stunner Andrew, would you know its common name? +1 on Perry's comments, your insights have been most informative and I credit a number of them for my recent success :celeb1: Keep on posting please :beer:
 
That is a stunner Andrew, would you know its common name? +1 on Perry's comments, your insights have been most informative and I credit a number of them for my recent success :celeb1: Keep on posting please :beer:

Thanks Mike, it's gotten over the water dramas well and is shooting new growth at the base now instead of just the tips.

It's A. nasuta i believe. This is when it was off the GBR for 48hrs and had shipped very well back in October 2015. The purple on the corallites shows up much better when viewed from the front on my piece but it's there. It's not bleached, that's what it looks like thanks to mother nature.

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It is not one of the easier acros to color up to its full potential but as you can see in both pics it's well worth striving for :)
 
Andrew - More nice photos again.
I won't be adding more siporax anytime soon - not till after June at the earliest.
Still have half a bag of AIO bio pellets left, its slowly getting used up.
Do you add any bacteria dosing back into your system? I am not sure the long term benefit or if there are any benefits. Only bought it because I needed to quickly cycle my fish QT tank before.
What's your thoughts on that subject?
 
Thanks Mike, it's gotten over the water dramas well and is shooting new growth at the base now instead of just the tips.

It's A. nasuta i believe. This is when it was off the GBR for 48hrs and had shipped very well back in October 2015. The purple on the corallites shows up much better when viewed from the front on my piece but it's there. It's not bleached, that's what it looks like thanks to mother nature.

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It is not one of the easier acros to color up to its full potential but as you can see in both pics it's well worth striving for :)
The one on the left makes me a little weak in the knees:fun4:
 
Andrew - More nice photos again.
I won't be adding more siporax anytime soon - not till after June at the earliest.
Still have half a bag of AIO bio pellets left, its slowly getting used up.
Do you add any bacteria dosing back into your system? I am not sure the long term benefit or if there are any benefits. Only bought it because I needed to quickly cycle my fish QT tank before.
What's your thoughts on that subject?

Though i've never used the stuff Kevin, a great many of my mates on here have and they are experienced SPS keepers who i trust to make reliable evaluations of additives. I think dosing bacteria can and does help if you are lacking in bacterial diversity and or using dinosaur bone dead rock and don't want to seed with real live rock.
I only ever use live rock personally so i have no need to seed the matrix with anything as there's plenty of bacteria looking to upgrade to more modern apartment living in my system.......... :p

Nicely done Andrew, great corals - great pictures!

Thanks very much Greg :)

The one on the left makes me a little weak in the knees:fun4:

Ken and Jen who i met last time i was at deer park aquarium were the lucky SPS reefers who scored that piece Matt. I have a similar green and purple piece but it isn't going to have the blue growing tips that the one in the shop tank would have. It's still recovering from the water goof unfortunately, color wise. :hammer:

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Andrew,
The official deal is that if you are going to name that coral after me, I think it needs to be backed up in my tank :) JK... But for real, that coral is down right sexy!!!
 
Thanks Andrew, that's what I thought it was. I picked up a good sized frag a few months ago but it went turd brown and dormant. Hopefully it will pick its chin off the ground at some point. Those fresh off the GBR pieces are off the hook!
 
Andrew, those two purples with the green nd blue tips - I think that's what one of my wild Aussie Acros is after seeing your pic! Mine is much paler since I have almost zero nutrients, but I'm sure that's what it is. Boy, those are beauties!

Andrew....
I have to say that I look forward to many threads, but yours happens to top choice.

Me too! This is always the first thread I pop into! :thumbsup:
 
Andrew mate, your acro colours are bloody sickening mate. Its 8.30am Sunday morning and sitting here with my cup of tea (had to make it myself, not as lucky as Perry).

Now Perry's Passion is just too good to see on a Sunday morning...makes me wish I lived next to the GBR so I could have beautiful acros to choose out of my LFS. :headwalls:
 
Beautiful Andrew love the colors hows everything how's the family.

Family is all good and doing well thanks Dan. :)

Andrew,
The official deal is that if you are going to name that coral after me, I think it needs to be backed up in my tank :) JK... But for real, that coral is down right sexy!!!

Your piece is a very cool looking color variant Perry, i will take great care of it for you buddy :thumbsup:

Thanks Andrew, that's what I thought it was. I picked up a good sized frag a few months ago but it went turd brown and dormant. Hopefully it will pick its chin off the ground at some point. Those fresh off the GBR pieces are off the hook!

Hey Mike, that's the third piece of that particular colored nasuta that i've scored over the years so i already knew exactly what conditions it would likely thrive in, having experimented in previous tanks - inside knowledge if you like lol.
I hope you get your frag to color up sooner rather than later mate, the colors are well worth chasing :)

Andrew, those two purples with the green nd blue tips - I think that's what one of my wild Aussie Acros is after seeing your pic! Mine is much paler since I have almost zero nutrients, but I'm sure that's what it is. Boy, those are beauties!

Me too! This is always the first thread I pop into! :thumbsup:

I hope your piece is a similar color variant Mindy, you'll love how dark the purple polyps get and contrast against the glowy green branch skin. My piece needs a bit more light to take off but i like it where it is and it's slowly growing so i'm happy. The bonus of a tiny bit too little light is that the purple corallites and polyps appear almost black :smokin:
I'm glad you enjoy popping in to see what's going on :)

Andrew mate, your acro colours are bloody sickening mate. Its 8.30am Sunday morning and sitting here with my cup of tea (had to make it myself, not as lucky as Perry).

Now Perry's Passion is just too good to see on a Sunday morning...makes me wish I lived next to the GBR so I could have beautiful acros to choose out of my LFS.

It's now after 10am and the weather in London is cloudy - WHAT A SURPRISE............. :p

The stag branch i removed from the colony at the back of the stag outcrop and had stuck to a small rock placed at the far left of the display for a week to recover was placed into the position i had selected it for when i cut it off.
You can see the stag in the last FTS and the video i posted recently, i removed one of the two thick teal stags from the front of the right island and turned the new stag 180 degrees to how it was sitting for a week and glued the rock it was on to the end of the island rock so it hangs out over the frog a bit...........
I thought it would bring better balance to the overall coral scape and placing it towards the front rather than at the back where most of us typically place stags is to break up the overly 'convenient' viewing layout of the right end of the tank - to me it looked contrived the way i had all the acros lined up in a fan towards the back with hardly anything blocking the acros behind etc. It was too good if you know what i mean :uhoh3:
As the stag grows it will block the view a bit more and make snooping at the acros further back more interesting. It will also add greatly to the right end depth of field - front to back.
I stuck the teal stag on the back of the left rock because i didn't know what else to do with it tbh, that's where i stick stuff i don't want to deal with lol.

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I love the layout, absolutely love the layout Andrew! The stag forest in the back left is too cool, but yes, it showcases all those killer acros!!! Your color breakup, and pattern variance is second to none :)
 
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