It's been a month, the achilles tang is still doing great. He still gets the occassional white spots but is able to fight it off. I am feeding food soaked in garlic and selcon once a day to improve the AT immune system. Eats just about everything besides pellets. His favorite seems to be the mixed of spirulina brine shrimp, cyclopeeze, and omega flakes soaked in garlic and selcon.
Achilles Tang Primer
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1ucky
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:eek1:! He's a beauty! Can't wait till mine gets that size!
Yurivd
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Thanks
REEF-n-Chicago
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For future reference and for the people who have not read the whole thread ( Ive read about half)
What medicines are suggested for this fish?
Please make a list so people could have them on hand.
I know copper is considered a no no so which parasite controls are good?
What medicines are suggested for this fish?
Please make a list so people could have them on hand.
I know copper is considered a no no so which parasite controls are good?
Hi All,
after looking for 2 years, I finally bought my first Achilies on wednesday night, 2 days ago.
My tank is 150 gallon, 5 feet by 2 by 2 feet, with 2 MP40w ES, and alpha cone skimmer.
My nitrate level is 0, and my water quality is really good.
My achilies is only 3 inch long, and its really nice. At the store he ate NLS pallets and the store person said that it ate sea weed and shrimp too, but when I went there he put pallets and it eat so I got it.
I dripped the fish for 3 hours on wed night, and then left the lights off, and on thursday (yesterday) on the lights and it was doing good, had small ich but not alot but its not eating. I even bought a cleaner wrasse yesterday and put it with it, and it was cleaning it, and this morning the ich went.
I tried feeding the fish today with sea weed, mysid shrimp, NLS pallets, brine shrimp and those soaked in selcone and Kent Marine Garlic, but the achilie is not eating.
However, its swimming fast and picking the glass and the rocks.
Does anyone know waht I can do?
the store person said that since its a new fish it may need some time to adjust to the env and then it will eat.
btw...I think my cleaner wrasse jumped out today, b/c I didnt see it after 9 pm, my light went out at 11 pm so for the 2 hours I did not see it.
Sorry for the long story but plz let me know what to do.
I also have 1 of each of the following tangs too, YT, PT, red sea sailfin tang, blue tang...all the tangs dont bother it exp for the YT which sometimes chase that achilies tang.
thanks everyone
Pran
after looking for 2 years, I finally bought my first Achilies on wednesday night, 2 days ago.
My tank is 150 gallon, 5 feet by 2 by 2 feet, with 2 MP40w ES, and alpha cone skimmer.
My nitrate level is 0, and my water quality is really good.
My achilies is only 3 inch long, and its really nice. At the store he ate NLS pallets and the store person said that it ate sea weed and shrimp too, but when I went there he put pallets and it eat so I got it.
I dripped the fish for 3 hours on wed night, and then left the lights off, and on thursday (yesterday) on the lights and it was doing good, had small ich but not alot but its not eating. I even bought a cleaner wrasse yesterday and put it with it, and it was cleaning it, and this morning the ich went.
I tried feeding the fish today with sea weed, mysid shrimp, NLS pallets, brine shrimp and those soaked in selcone and Kent Marine Garlic, but the achilie is not eating.
However, its swimming fast and picking the glass and the rocks.
Does anyone know waht I can do?
the store person said that since its a new fish it may need some time to adjust to the env and then it will eat.
btw...I think my cleaner wrasse jumped out today, b/c I didnt see it after 9 pm, my light went out at 11 pm so for the 2 hours I did not see it.
Sorry for the long story but plz let me know what to do.
I also have 1 of each of the following tangs too, YT, PT, red sea sailfin tang, blue tang...all the tangs dont bother it exp for the YT which sometimes chase that achilies tang.
thanks everyone
Pran
hey my achilies is only 3 inch long from lip to tail....also I got alot of room and open space for it to swim.
I am planning to upgrade to 300 gallon early next year, so this is just for some time.
Also, I may give away my other tangs, Achilies is my fav as everyones.
btw...I saw the cleaner wrasse this morning, I guess it was sleeeping early last night.
could you please let me know how to get it to eat
thx
Pran
I am planning to upgrade to 300 gallon early next year, so this is just for some time.
Also, I may give away my other tangs, Achilies is my fav as everyones.
btw...I saw the cleaner wrasse this morning, I guess it was sleeeping early last night.
could you please let me know how to get it to eat
thx
Pran
I just googled "Steven Pro Ich" and found it:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-10/sp/feature/index.php
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-10/sp/feature/index.php
Quote from that article in regards to cleaner wrasse: (Part 2)
"While probably not able to affect a cure in a full-blown infestation, the use of cleaner shrimp may help with a mild problem. I wish to express my dismay when seeing cleaner wrasses, Labroides species, offered for sale. The vast majority of these are doomed to waste away as they are obligate feeders of marine ectoparasites (Fenner, 2003). There are many other effective cleaners available with a much better survival rate. Please leave these fish in the ocean where they can live long, happy lives and help maintain the health of the other reef fish.
The other argument against the use of Labroides wrasses is, being a fish, they are just as susceptible to infection as the fish they are "treating." In a closed, contaminated system, the cleaner wrasse will, in time, become infected too. As a result, it will eat less and become useless for combating Cryptocaryon. This same argument also rules out the use of other cleaner fish such as the various Gobiosoma species. While these make excellent aquarium residents, they are not an effective cure for parasitic diseases of fish. The cleaner shrimp, on the other hand, are not susceptible to Cryptocaryon and could therefore help to bring about a cure, while not being a complete cure in and of themselves.
One last note on Labroides wrasses, contrary to popular opinion, they do not consume Cryptocaryon parasites. They have demonstrated a strong preference for gnathid isopods, which make up between 77 and 85% of their natural diet (Grutter, 1997 & 2000). The remaining prey items are composed of scales, parasitic copepods, and non-parasitic copepods. So, regardless of whatever conscientious objections one may or may not have regarding their availability in the marine aquarium trade, they are not going to help in the battle against Ich. Also, since Cryptocaryon irritans is known to be rare in the wild (Bunkley-Williams & Williams, 1994), it would follow that it is unlikely that Ich makes up any significant portion of any cleaner organism's diet. This, coupled with how deep the trophonts embed, throws into question the effectiveness of any cleaner against Cryptocaryon irritans."
"While probably not able to affect a cure in a full-blown infestation, the use of cleaner shrimp may help with a mild problem. I wish to express my dismay when seeing cleaner wrasses, Labroides species, offered for sale. The vast majority of these are doomed to waste away as they are obligate feeders of marine ectoparasites (Fenner, 2003). There are many other effective cleaners available with a much better survival rate. Please leave these fish in the ocean where they can live long, happy lives and help maintain the health of the other reef fish.
The other argument against the use of Labroides wrasses is, being a fish, they are just as susceptible to infection as the fish they are "treating." In a closed, contaminated system, the cleaner wrasse will, in time, become infected too. As a result, it will eat less and become useless for combating Cryptocaryon. This same argument also rules out the use of other cleaner fish such as the various Gobiosoma species. While these make excellent aquarium residents, they are not an effective cure for parasitic diseases of fish. The cleaner shrimp, on the other hand, are not susceptible to Cryptocaryon and could therefore help to bring about a cure, while not being a complete cure in and of themselves.
One last note on Labroides wrasses, contrary to popular opinion, they do not consume Cryptocaryon parasites. They have demonstrated a strong preference for gnathid isopods, which make up between 77 and 85% of their natural diet (Grutter, 1997 & 2000). The remaining prey items are composed of scales, parasitic copepods, and non-parasitic copepods. So, regardless of whatever conscientious objections one may or may not have regarding their availability in the marine aquarium trade, they are not going to help in the battle against Ich. Also, since Cryptocaryon irritans is known to be rare in the wild (Bunkley-Williams & Williams, 1994), it would follow that it is unlikely that Ich makes up any significant portion of any cleaner organism's diet. This, coupled with how deep the trophonts embed, throws into question the effectiveness of any cleaner against Cryptocaryon irritans."
thx for your help with that
my achilies is swiming very fast, I have over 50 times flow in my tank and he is loving it
its constantly picking the rocks and glass, but its not eating any food I put
hmm...also its very clean does not have any ich
its in my tank for 3 days now...do you think I should be worried that its not eating?
any idea how I can get it to eat?
I tried mysid shrimp, brine, spirunla flakes, sea weed, NLS pallets, selcone and kent marine garlic all added and tried w/o adding too
thx
Pran
thx
my achilies is swiming very fast, I have over 50 times flow in my tank and he is loving it
its constantly picking the rocks and glass, but its not eating any food I put
hmm...also its very clean does not have any ich
its in my tank for 3 days now...do you think I should be worried that its not eating?
any idea how I can get it to eat?
I tried mysid shrimp, brine, spirunla flakes, sea weed, NLS pallets, selcone and kent marine garlic all added and tried w/o adding too
thx
Pran
thx
hey thanks for the kinds words and not scaring me lol
yes I do have dsardijini...I got it last year when it was 1 inch now its 3 inch...I will sell it if it gets big...
so what should I do now?...when do I know its a concern and worry about the achilies...
did yours have the same issue too?...how did you get it to eat?
thx
Pran
