Achilles Tang Primer

[Achilles Torben]

Hello,

I have one Achilles in good condition in display tank for nearly a year. Since that I want to introduce a second Achilles for pairing up. I want to pick up a very tiny but I can't buy that size every month. In last few months a have 2 ones but died after a few days weeks. My question is if I able to pick up a tiny one and bring it to food can I start after a few weeks with TTM? I agree with Dr. when put fish in an other tank fish stop eating for a few days and is very shy again. What would you like to do in my situation?

Grüße Torben

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[ReefPharmer]

Honestly I feel like you are asking for trouble. I know you want to pair them but that's assuming that you get a different sex as your second. What if they are the same and will fight ? They are likely to fight either way but it's your call. Problem w getting a small one as your second is the primary dominant tang will kicks its a$$ very easily and basically kill it shortly after introduction

Hello,

I have one Achilles in good condition in display tank for nearly a year. Since that I want to introduce a second Achilles for pairing up. I want to pick up a very tiny but I can't buy that size every month. In last few months a have 2 ones but died after a few days weeks. My question is if I able to pick up a tiny one and bring it to food can I start after a few weeks with TTM? I agree with Dr. when put fish in an other tank fish stop eating for a few days and is very shy again. What would you like to do in my situation?

Grüße Torben

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[ReefPharmer]

A specimen of that size needs a significant tank. Unlike others on this thread, I feel these guys need swimming room and a large specimen, assuming it survives, will go nuts in a regular sized tank.

15 Achilles deaths after a few weeks seem like nature telling your friend to stick w other fish. I'm hoping it's more like 1-3 and you just said 15 for effect cuz thats crazy and any store that keeps selling him fish isn't a good store. (Yes I understand business but ask any store owner and the first line they feed you is they are there for the welfare of the animals)

HI All

I was wondering if getting a show size achilies 7+ inch is easier to keep than getting a small one 3-4 inch. I have heard, the AChilies which are very big, like 7+ inch and fat from the wild, are very strong and when you put them in the tank , they will stay healthy and if they get ich (after treatment and QT process) they are strong enough to fight it back. How true is this?

I have a friend who has been getting small AChilies for the past 5 years, maybe around 15 so far, but they all die after few weeks.

Another friend of his, got his first achilies, which was 7+ inch and put it straight into his display and its very healthy and alive.

Please advise.

 

[Pran]

A specimen of that size needs a significant tank. Unlike others on this thread, I feel these guys need swimming room and a large specimen, assuming it survives, will go nuts in a regular sized tank.

15 Achilles deaths after a few weeks seem like nature telling your friend to stick w other fish. I'm hoping it's more like 1-3 and you just said 15 for effect cuz thats crazy and any store that keeps selling him fish isn't a good store. (Yes I understand business but ask any store owner and the first line they feed you is they are there for the welfare of the animals)

yes thank you, he is going to stop. This is over 20 year span, but still its bad.

I too bought a 2.5 inch one last may which is around 4 inch now.
I was thinking about getting a bigger one, 6-7 inch,but you are saying its not a good idea.

I just find the big ones, really nice, with the orange round spot.

Do you know how long it will take mine to grow to 6 inch.
I am feeding it alot, and its eating alot too.


Thanks
Pran

 

[ReefPharmer]

yes thank you, he is going to stop. This is over 20 year span, but still its bad.



I too bought a 2.5 inch one last may which is around 4 inch now.

I was thinking about getting a bigger one, 6-7 inch,but you are saying its not a good idea.



I just find the big ones, really nice, with the orange round spot.



Do you know how long it will take mine to grow to 6 inch.

I am feeding it alot, and its eating alot too.





Thanks

Pran

If you get another one (which I'm not recommending), get a larger one. Also after qt, I would remove the original one for a day or so and introduce them back into the tank together at the same time. If you do that, I would go with specimen of similar size. I am not sure of how fast these fish grow in the tank as it depends on water quality, food quality and space.


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[Achilles Torben]

Honestly I feel like you are asking for trouble. I know you want to pair them but that's assuming that you get a different sex as your second. What if they are the same and will fight ? They are likely to fight either way but it's your call. Problem w getting a small one as your second is the primary dominant tang will kicks its a$$ very easily and basically kill it shortly after introduction

Hi, tank is about 1400 gallon and I will introduce the small one first and later the big one. Have to quarantine fish in display again because I make mistake in my fishroom and use pump and pipes after using it on quarantine after few weeks some ich found in tank. Not much but Leucosternum and hepatus has one or two a side. So I have chance to pair up Achilles. Some guys had good experience to pair up Acanthurus, also Achilles, to introduce small and bigger one together or small one first. IMO small one first ist safest way.

Grüße Torben

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[ReefPharmer]

Hi, tank is about 1400 gallon and I will introduce the small one first and later the big one. Have to quarantine fish in display again because I make mistake in my fishroom and use pump and pipes after using it on quarantine after few weeks some ich found in tank. Not much but Leucosternum and hepatus has one or two a side. So I have chance to pair up Achilles. Some guys had good experience to pair up Acanthurus, also Achilles, to introduce small and bigger one together or small one first. IMO small one first ist safest way.

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That's a large tank and it should definitely increase your chances of success. The idea of introducing the small one first, then the large one is a good one. Good luck! I have Achilles and a powder blue in a 8 foot tank and they coexist together.


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[Pran]

If you get another one (which I'm not recommending), get a larger one. Also after qt, I would remove the original one for a day or so and introduce them back into the tank together at the same time. If you do that, I would go with specimen of similar size. I am not sure of how fast these fish grow in the tank as it depends on water quality, food quality and space.


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Thank you for your suggestions.

Btw, my Achilie is in my tank for 9 months now, do you know after how many months I can finally believe its safe and healthy?

 

[ReefPharmer]

Long term success means years imo. You can just take it a day at a time and feed properly. When the fish is well proportioned, eating, swimming and displaying generally healthy behavior (playing in the water stream of powerheads, picking rocks, attacking food-without signs of distress and diseases), you can be satisfied with knowing that you are providing a good home for a healthy specimen


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[Pran]

thank you, how long you had yours for?
do you have any pix

 

[Pran]

Hi all

Can you all please share your experience with Achilles tang pair

Thanks

 

[ReefPharmer]

Here is a pic

 

[Pran]

nicee fish, thanks

mine is small, only 3-4 inch, that is why I want to get a one big fat one like yours

did you get yours small or big?
if small, what size and how long i took to get it this big?

thanks

 

[ReefPharmer]

I got it about 3 years ago. It wasn't large and it's not huge now either. I'd say maybe I got it at 5 inches. It's hard to say because when you look at something constantly, growth doesn't get noticed.


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[Pran]

ok cool thanks

 

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Achilles Tang Growth

Achilles Tang Growth

Unread 01/27/2017, 01:37 PM #1668
Pran
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HI all

I had my achilies for almost 9 months now, its growing very slow, and the orange color is not very bright nice orange, it looks very dull orange, also the orange spot is oval shape, and not very round tear drop shape like other achilies. Can you please let me know why mine is like this, can this be female? that is why the color is dull and not bright.

Thanks


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Your Achilles will grow, they must be fed often and a mixed variety of foods, the spot will grow larger with time. Mine looked just like yours when I got it and it is huge and thick now.
I feed mine nils spectrum pellets 3xper day two spins on a Eheim auto feeder and hand feed a homemade mixture of frozen mixed Nori seaweed,dulce seaweedcapelin roe , mysis, nls,ginger powder layer flat in a ziplock bag then frozen. I Dive and Snorkel a lot in Hawaii and can tell you from personal observation they eat constantly, love high flow and swim fast and hard, but because they have hyperactive traits they must eat more often than other Tangs.

 

[Pran]

Thanks all

mine used to eat NLS pallets, but now it only eats PE Mysis and Seaweed

do you think NLS Pallets is the best food for this to grow big, and I should stop feeding PE?

Thanks

 

[Pran]

Hi all

I know we have discussed many times about having more than 2 chilies

but how is one adult and one baby


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv7znPvvVko

 

[Pran]

HI all

how is all your Achilies doing

 

[ReefPharmer]

So my friend is breaking down his tank and offered me to house his two smaller Achilles. I have my own that's larger than his. My tank is 300g.

The current inhabitants are Achilles, pow blue, naso, chevron, purple and yellow. His are Achilles x2, pow blue, pow brown, naso, chevron, purple x2, yellow.
I realize it sounds nuts but I saw a friends tank which had a TON of fish that were aggressive and others that were not so and there wasn't any damage on them due to "lack of territories". He did have a large filtration system that handles these fish.

So is it possible or 6 likeshaped fish are a death sentence ?


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