AEFW: In-Tank Whoopin

Thanks for the write up ormet! I was planning 3 tank treatments and a final Bayer dip before transferring to my display. My infestation levels are very low, but I know they are present. Any thoughts on this? I also considered dipping in a super concentrated solution of Levi instead of the Bayer. Would love to hear your thoughts. I may increase the dose on the third tank tratment since at that point, most of the critters should be dead so die off should be less.
 
Quick question, I was doing some simple conversions and did not realize how potent this stuff is. I may also want to experiment with a high concentration dip, like the 40mg/L solution used in the study. The problem I'm running into is that I'm trying to convert this into common US measurements (teaspoon/cup, etc) and I'm finding that you need a miniscule amount of this stuff. According to earlier in this thread, seems like a lightly packed teaspoon of this stuff has about 4grams so a 1/4t has 1000mg.

To do a 40mg/L tank water solution I guess I didn't realize how small 40mg was, LOL. Maybe I'm just doing the math wrong, or maybe I just need to buy a gram scale. Help:D
 
I don't really see the reason for Levamisole if you are going to bayer dip. Afaik Bayer dip is the most effective treatment there is. Then again, cant hurt to attack from different angles.

I think using Lev as a highly concentrated dip or intank treatment is very interesting and i really really wish for some space to do experiments with it. How it affects eggs, where point of no return happens for invertebrates etc. Hopefully tektite will produce some data soon and might be going for treatment experiments next.
 
Interested to see if you are still AEFW free after a while. I am. You all know that I had a few larger ones survive the first few doses. I wonder if I just killed the smaller ones/eggs and just let the bigger ones die naturally.
 
This is such a great thread and I thank you guys for all of your work and going through the treatment for us others who have AEFW. I have only found one frag the other day that had AEFWs and one clutch of eggs. I've been staring at my acros daily since then and see nothing.. Anything that shows any suspicion is going to get pulled, dipped, and if it has eggs, thrown out.

I'm hoping I caught it early enough and break the reproductive cycle so I don't have to do an in tank treatment. I'll see in a few days or weeks if anything hatched elsewhere and made it....
 
This post is a great read!!

A few nights ago I took a flashlight to my Bonsai and Purple-Tip acro. I noticed they looked bad and my bonsai had circles on it. Sure enough both colonies were loaded with eggs and worms!! So I dipped and scraped all the eggs off. Have been looking everyday with a magnifying glass and flashlight.

As of today, they've got polyp extension, though are pretty white. I cut off half of my bonsai and chopped up my purple tip into 3 nice frags.

Also bought Bayers yesterday. From what I understand is its a lot less harsh on the corals compared to Revive (which I've been using).
 
Ormet
Can you confirm jda's standard solution is to mix 1tsp (roughly 4g) Prohibit per 1000ml ?
Thanks for your summary and let us know if there's any change.
It's great to tag along and someday I might have to use it.
 
No, the magic potion is 1tsp/500mL(standard water bottle) if I remember correctly, or at least that's what I did, LOL!

1tsp is approximately 4g.
 
As Rovster says, according to jda's log he mixed 1 lightly packed tsp in 500ml RODI.

I found on my electronic gram scale that one lightly packed tsp equated to 3,5g and had to pack a fair bit harder then what i would call "lightly" to reach 4g.

To confuse matters more i have made my own magic potion, 5g in 500ml with a dose of 2ml/G. That created a concentration just a hair under that where my Collonista starts dropping from the rock work. Its also easier to use for calculations.
 
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Bad news, dosed yesterday and caught 2 very large worms. They were in tank water overnight and are still kicking. They have definitely slowed down a lot but are not dead. 2 days ago I did capture a worm and put it in a super saturated solution of Levi and it turned to mush. I've added more solution to the tank but I'm due for my 24 hr waterchange in a couple of hours. Considering letting things run for another 24 hrs. I will definitely increase my dose next time. I'm using the 1.5mL/gal rule. Going to up it to 2.5mL/gal which is what's in the tank as of 1 hr ago. Fish and coral seem unaffected which is great. Worms not dead not so great.


Never mind, gonna try ormets super tonic next go around. Go big or go home! I'm sure most of the flatworms are dead anyway. It's the big ones that seem to not want to die!!!!
 
After 6 hours in the newer water, the worms finally died. I will use this concentration for the next treatment. I ended up doing a water change and getting everything online 2 hours into the new concentration because I have a football game Togo to, lol. Feeling much better that the worms perished in just tank water!
 
I started with 1.5/gallon of potion. 37 mL in my 30 gallon (25gal water??). I added an additional 20mL this morning. Corals have not been phased!
 
Hentz said:
This post is a great read!!

A few nights ago I took a flashlight to my Bonsai and Purple-Tip acro. I noticed they looked bad and my bonsai had circles on it. Sure enough both colonies were loaded with eggs and worms!! So I dipped and scraped all the eggs off. Have been looking everyday with a magnifying glass and flashlight.

As of today, they've got polyp extension, though are pretty white. I cut off half of my bonsai and chopped up my purple tip into 3 nice frags.

Also bought Bayers yesterday. From what I understand is its a lot less harsh on the corals compared to Revive (which I've been using).
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Bayer is a lot less harsh than revive for sure. I've smoked several smooth skinned acros using the recommended dosage. I think anything past the 6 minute mark for me was a real danger to the coral at the recommended dose.

Fyi though, just removing the coral you saw them on is likely not going to fix the problem. There's always 1 or 2 off on their own doing something on one of the other corals. Good luck on your battle, I had them and did the 8 week 1 dip a week thing with a separate tank to house acro's while the DT AEFW starved to death. I lost probably 30% of the corals and the rest looked like they went several rounds with mike tyson. I'm very interested in this in tank treatment thing though, following for sure.
 
Both ormet and I saw a few survive the first treatment. Mostly larger ones. The treatment seems effective on the smaller ones.

What we don't know:
Do the next few doses end up getting the larger ones?
Does the killing of the smaller ones just allow the older ones to die off and break the lifecycle?
Eggs? No idea, but I never saw any small ones after my first dose - ever.

I am really interested to see if ormet is worm-free in a few months. If so, then that will make two of us.
 
jda said:
Both ormet and I saw a few survive the first treatment. Mostly larger ones. The treatment seems effective on the smaller ones.

What we don't know:
Do the next few doses end up getting the larger ones?
Does the killing of the smaller ones just allow the older ones to die off and break the lifecycle?
Eggs? No idea, but I never saw any small ones after my first dose - ever.

I am really interested to see if ormet is worm-free in a few months. If so, then that will make two of us.
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This is what I observed as well. After the first does I have observed 3 huge ones. 1 I caught and put in a supersaturated levi solution and it melted in front of my eyes. The others I was observing in tank water. The initial does did not kill them in 24 hrs. The second higher dose (2.5mL potion/gal) killed then in 5-6 hrs, but that is after 22ish hours at the previous dose.

I would be surprised if I see any on the next treatment that will happen in 2 weeks (out of town this coming weekend).
 
rovster said:
This is what I observed as well. After the first does I have observed 3 huge ones. 1 I caught and put in a supersaturated levi solution and it melted in front of my eyes. The others I was observing in tank water. The initial does did not kill them in 24 hrs. The second higher dose (2.5mL potion/gal) killed then in 5-6 hrs, but that is after 22ish hours at the previous dose.

I would be surprised if I see any on the next treatment that will happen in 2 weeks (out of town this coming weekend).
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I really hope I never have to do this, but thank you guys for trailblazing on this..
 
You guys should zero in on finding eggs to determine whether you broke the cycle and did in fact eliminate these worms.
 
Funny I've yet to observe a clutch of eggs, but I will definitely inspect before I transfer back to my new display.
 
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