AEFW Poll

[Neptune777]

Well.......for some reason I just fealt that I would end up with these pests......I just returned from Vacation and I noticed one of my small milli colonies looking less than good.....After reading the post about Melev recently getting them I pulled the colony and discovered I have the dreaded AEFW!!!!!!!!!! Figures....right when I think I've beaten the Monti Nudi's I get this as a thanks! Man this Sucks!

I would like to conduct a poll (because I haven't done one yet )and because I want to see how others have made out with their treatment plans....

 

[Neptune777]

When you vote please post your experiences with this pest.

I know that I got them from poor quarantine practices......I very recently purchased all necessary equipment to set up a 30gal cube for quarantine and possible frag tank when I finish purchasing new sps corals........but as they say "A day late and a dime short!"

 

[Neptune777]

Ha!.....maybe it's too early in the game! Has anyone beaten these pests with the methods I listed in the pole?

 

[Michael Mota]

I did not respond to the poll for I have never experienced the aefw. But I do dip any and all corals in a strong solution of lugols before they are put into my tanks. but I also must state that I have not put a new coral into my tank in about 6 months or so.

 

[ddr]

Ive responded with you I am treating, I havent beaten them yet but it certainly seems their numbers are reducing.

 

[Neptune777]

DDR I have some questions for you about your strategy to see how you are beating them:

Are you using the TMPCC? Did you pull all acros from the display and put them into quarantine? I will be starting treatment in the next week or so (still getting the Quarantine system up and running)....I plan on dipping in TMPCC weekly until I feel the problem is fixed. Also, are you dosing at the rate suggested on the bottle or are you over-dosing? -Thanks!

 

[SaraB]

I pondered between using the TMPCC and Levamisole dips. I went with Levamisole as I figured it would be an easier process with the 30 acro's I pulled (mostly frags) into a 10 gallon QT tank for 5 weeks. When it came time for the weekly treatments, I moved the water and Acro's into a plastic container and did the 6 hour soak and cleaned the 10 gallon QT with hot water and vinegar as to kill any AEFW's that may have fallen off. I then refilled the tank with water from my system and moved all the Acro's back until the next weeks treatment.

With TMPCC, I figured I would have to mix a larger amount into a container and them move the corals in and out of it and then not have the time required to clean the QT tank and all of the powerheads, etc. before the corals had to go back in. Levamisole is also less costly than the TMPCC.

I just moved all my acro's back into the display tank on Tuesday, so it's too early to say that I've won the fight yet.

 

[Neptune777]

Hi Sara,
I purchased the Levamisole online today....and I already have the TMPCC in hand....I will try both and stagger the treatments. That way the pests get hit with a left hook and I knock em' out!!! I am considering keeping everything in QT for 2 months just to be sure....

 

[ddr]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7883275#post7883275 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Neptune777
DDR I have some questions for you about your strategy to see how you are beating them:

I dont have that many colonies as I had a total wipe out 6 months ago, im now thinking thats from these mongrels.

The corals are staying in the display, but im dipping them every second week in a solution of Provodine/Iodine (Betadine) & Tank water, then scraping the eggs off.

Im currently using 1mm of Provodine to 500ml of water.

 

[raddogz]

I have been using Tropic Marine Pro Coral Cure with weekly dips/ blowing off with a turkey baster.

I was using the double recommended dosage of 2 squirts for every 200 millileters of tank water.

After two weeks the corals are looking better.

I just bought Provodine and will be trying that next as an alternative to TMPCC.

I just hate stressing the corals out so much.

 

[maxxII]

I didnt vote because I didnt beat them in a satisfactory way...my acros died. But I dont have AEFW's anymore either.

Prazi-pro does not work at 4x reccomended dose or below. I can vouch for that.

I ahve heard fluke tabs seem to be working as well.

Nick

 

[just dave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7895597#post7895597 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by maxxII
I didnt vote because I didnt beat them in a satisfactory way...my acros died. But I dont have AEFW's anymore either.

Prazi-pro does not work at 4x reccomended dose or below. I can vouch for that.

I ahve heard fluke tabs seem to be working as well.

Nick

The main ingredient in Aquarium Products Fluke Tabs is an organophosphate and I've read people have had some success with it as well.
This kinda stuff makes one lean towards a mushroom only tank.

 

[getwood65]

why is it that all the plagues only happen to the sps keepers-i keep waiting to hear about some new ones like the xenia eating bristleworm and the zoo chomping copepod.luckily i've only had to deal with the monti nudi's,that really sucks that i consider myself lucky,but i only lost 2 monti's and they were just frags-the larger colonies recovered just fine.these flatworms look like a real menace and everyone needs to rethink before they throw corals in their tank and spend a little extra time treating and quarenteening new new aquisitions.

 

[just dave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7898267#post7898267 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by getwood65
why is it that all the plagues only happen to the sps keepers-i keep waiting to hear about some new ones like the xenia eating bristleworm and the zoo chomping copepod.luckily i've only had to deal with the monti nudi's,that really sucks that i consider myself lucky,but i only lost 2 monti's and they were just frags-the larger colonies recovered just fine.these flatworms look like a real menace and everyone needs to rethink before they throw corals in their tank and spend a little extra time treating and quarenteening new new aquisitions.

They don't just happen to SPS peeps. There are plenty of nasties on the prowl that eat other things.

 

[getwood65]

it just seems that even in the wild there are more pest and animals that prey specifically on sps corals-for instance the crown of thorns starfish in the great barrier reef that are consuming whole areas.

 

[Sparkss]

I just viewed the results and really want to throw the "BS flag" on a couple of them. The person who stated that they beat the AEFWs with FWE is either jsut outright lieing or they haven't given the tank sufficient time to assess if the AEFWs are truly gone. I would echo the same sentiment to anyone trying to do dips w/o a QT setup. If you keep putting the acros back into your display tank after dipping you are just re-infecting them, it is just that simple. While those methods may control the pests they will never eradicate them (which means that you would need to continue your "treatments" indefinitely).

Just my little rant, having been involved in testing on almost every major AEFW thread. I gave up hope of an in tank treatment and accepted what people were telling us a year ago.. that the only sure way to get rid of them is to QT for a minimum of 1 month, leaving the display tank barren of acros for at least that long. We are jsut about set to start our treatments.. I finished building the tanks and getting everything set up, just need to finalize the lighting and then we will start moving the acros over.

 

[Reefflections]

My best friend asked me to chime in here.Because I did have those flatworms.So bad at some corals,were so bad I just tossed them out of the tank.When I started dip,I was running the Zeovit method at that time.I don't know if any of their chemicals had any effect on my system or not? I doubt it....I started dipping every coral not just SPS.The LPS were dipped also.Because I actually found 1 on one of my LPS corals.I went with Lugols 10 drops per quart of tank water.After I started this,my numbers dropped off big time.And yes egg cluster were found.But by taking every coral out,in a seperate tank.There is no sure thing you got ALL of them either.They swim,and crawl on your rock work.So what makes you thing by doing this will even work?This by any means isn't a slam dunk ! I'm sure it could help,but might not get them all either?The last time I actually did a dipping of my corals has been Nov.They are totally gone.Yes very carefull where frags come from today.But mine are gone,by just dipping Lugols.I'm not the only one here.Clkwrk here on RC,beat them also.Not sure his method,but he is on RC a lot.And has posted he beat them also.Now what Eric B.has found out,there could be 3 different types of the Acro eating flatworms.Now I made a post along time ago,as for the Fluke tabs.And everybody going to these other chemicals for dipping.He is a firm believer of these tabs.But I guess a lot of folks,might think it's a joke.But if I had them,I would surely try the Fluke tabs.He told me the die,right away.
And told me he doesn't have them in his system,since treating them.You don't have to hunt them down with a turkey baster.They fall right off.I'm not sure how he uses these tabs.I just meet him lately.He just did the dip method,with NO SEPERATE SYSTEM.And is bug free also.We will know I lot more,when Eric B. does his research on these pests.But it's going to be a long haul,before we know more about these bugs.I told my best friend,about this method.Now maybe she will give it a try also?Also this treatment might not stress corals out as much as those other chemicals.

 

[raddogz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7909583#post7909583 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefflections
My best friend asked me to chime in here.Because I did have those flatworms.So bad at some corals,were so bad I just tossed them out of the tank.When I started dip,I was running the Zeovit method at that time.I don't know if any of their chemicals had any effect on my system or not? I doubt it....I started dipping every coral not just SPS.The LPS were dipped also.Because I actually found 1 on one of my LPS corals.I went with Lugols 10 drops per quart of tank water.After I started this,my numbers dropped off big time.And yes egg cluster were found.But by taking every coral out,in a seperate tank.There is no sure thing you got ALL of them either.They swim,and crawl on your rock work.So what makes you thing by doing this will even work?This by any means isn't a slam dunk ! I'm sure it could help,but might not get them all either?The last time I actually did a dipping of my corals has been Nov.They are totally gone.Yes very carefull where frags come from today.But mine are gone,by just dipping Lugols.I'm not the only one here.Clkwrk here on RC,beat them also.Not sure his method,but he is on RC a lot.And has posted he beat them also.Now what Eric B.has found out,there could be 3 different types of the Acro eating flatworms.Now I made a post along time ago,as for the Fluke tabs.And everybody going to these other chemicals for dipping.He is a firm believer of these tabs.But I guess a lot of folks,might think it's a joke.But if I had them,I would surely try the Fluke tabs.He told me the die,right away.
And told me he doesn't have them in his system,since treating them.You don't have to hunt them down with a turkey baster.They fall right off.I'm not sure how he uses these tabs.I just meet him lately.He just did the dip method,with NO SEPERATE SYSTEM.And is bug free also.We will know I lot more,when Eric B. does his research on these pests.But it's going to be a long haul,before we know more about these bugs.I told my best friend,about this method.Now maybe she will give it a try also?Also this treatment might not stress corals out as much as those other chemicals.

Do you have a link where Eric has indicated that the Fluke tabs work for these AEFW?

 

[gflat65]

I agree, Sparkss. When I moved mine to the QT before the Levamisole treatments several months back, there were AEFW's all over the glass. They didn't stay on the corals at all. they like to move around...

 

[Reefflections]

I didn't say that Eric said the FLuke tabs work.A guy has a reef tank here where I live.He was the one that told me about Fluke tabs.The only thing what I remember before Eric left.Was the could be 3 types of these worms.I didn't find out about the fluke tabs,when I had them.He has a small shop here.And he told me,about these tabs then.But don't know how to use the tabs.Again I wasn't having a problem with them.He just told me his treatment.Backs it up all the way.I'm not even sure what's chemicals that's in these tabs.I'm just passing on,what he said to me at that time.